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« Reply #75 on: July 10, 2009, 07:14:26 pm »
Quote from: Defense5499 on July 10, 2009, 06:30:42 pm
 
 But Have you ever sat through an entire Murder trial? 


yes, several.

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You wouldn't believe how the Victims are made to look like .


Ussually even the scumbag victims come off looking like saints.

DA puts the victims mom on the stand who talks about how wonderful her son until the judge ends the questioning on the basis that it is totally irrelevent.  (Her only actual relevent statement is to tell us that at one point he was alive) The defense atty does zero cross.  Because 1. the witness doesn't added any thing particularly relevent.  and 2. crossing a grieving mom will likily alienate the jury.

On the other hand very rarely will the defense want to introduce the defendant's character.   
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« Reply #76 on: July 11, 2009, 01:35:01 am »

If Steve McNair had a little more Brett Favre in him, there would still be a chance of him coming back...
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« Reply #77 on: July 11, 2009, 02:17:03 am »
Quote from: MyGodWearsAHoodie on July 10, 2009, 07:14:26 pm
yes, several.

Ussually even the scumbag victims come off looking like saints.

DA puts the victims mom on the stand who talks about how wonderful her son until the judge ends the questioning on the basis that it is totally irrelevent.  (Her only actual relevent statement is to tell us that at one point he was alive) The defense atty does zero cross.  Because 1. the witness doesn't added any thing particularly relevent.  and 2. crossing a grieving mom will likily alienate the jury.

On the other hand very rarely will the defense want to introduce the defendant's character.   


Not in this case. Just Look at this thread to see how Steve Mcnair (The victim) is being made out to be . What do you think is going to happen if they pick a jury?  And this is where my jury panel experience comes in. The Jury freaking lies during Voir dire. The very meaning of the word is to tell a true verdict, but they lie. I have heard jurists say during selection that they have no biases but during dliberations........... Roll Eyes Completely different people in that room.

All it takes is one person . just like we have in this very thread, to see McNair as a 37 yr old pervert and she walks.  State smells that and she gets the deal of a lifetime. Happens everyday. The state tries like hell during selection to weed them out ......but they get in . 
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« Reply #78 on: July 17, 2009, 04:11:34 pm »
Turns out she bought the gun from a convicted murderer and the Feds now have him in custody. 

http://www.fanhouse.com/news/nfl/felon-arrested-over-gun-in-steve-mcnair/576955?icid=main|main|dl1|link4|http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fanhouse.com%2Fnews%2Fnfl%2Ffelon-arrested-over-gun-in-steve-mcnair%2F576955
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« Reply #79 on: July 17, 2009, 09:10:45 pm »
Wow I thought this thread was as dead as the murderer and her victim. Is there much to really discuss about this murder/suicide anymore?
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« Reply #80 on: July 20, 2009, 09:21:18 pm »
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Wow I thought this thread was as dead as the murderer and her victim. Is there much to really discuss about this murder/suicide anymore?

A 3rd party arrest , how is that not relavant?
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« Reply #81 on: July 20, 2009, 09:31:16 pm »
Quote from: Defense5499 on July 20, 2009, 09:21:18 pm
A 3rd party arrest , how is that not relavant?

It is very relevant.... as is this:

I saw on ESPN that the toxicology report showed that the girl had marijuana in her system, and McNair's blood alcohol level was twice the legal limit. 
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« Reply #82 on: July 20, 2009, 09:48:51 pm »
Quote from: Tommy on July 20, 2009, 09:31:16 pm
It is very relevant.... as is this:

I saw on ESPN that the toxicology report showed that the girl had marijuana in her system, and McNair's blood alcohol level was twice the legal limit. 

So what he was drinking.  Getting drunk is legal.  Just don't drive. 
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« Reply #83 on: July 20, 2009, 10:15:44 pm »
Quote from: Sunstroke on July 11, 2009, 01:35:01 am
If Steve McNair had a little more Brett Favre in him, there would still be a chance of him coming back...



I shouldn't laugh, but I think this is pretty good.
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« Reply #84 on: July 20, 2009, 10:44:33 pm »
Quote from: MyGodWearsAHoodie on July 20, 2009, 09:48:51 pm
So what he was drinking.  Getting drunk is legal.  Just don't drive. 

He was drunk and the girl was high.... and that might've played a part in the girl's decision to blow him away.
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« Reply #85 on: July 21, 2009, 09:26:42 am »
Quote from: Tommy on July 20, 2009, 10:44:33 pm
the girl was high....

This is an unknown. That's the thing about drug testing especially for marijuana. People test positive long after the effects are gone.
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« Reply #86 on: July 21, 2009, 10:06:31 am »
Phish has a point.  If she were smoking it in his prescence, wouldn't he have tested postitive for it also?
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« Reply #87 on: July 21, 2009, 10:16:21 am »
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This is an unknown. That's the thing about drug testing especially for marijuana. People test positive long after the effects are gone.

And the effect of pot is to mellow people not turn them into homicidal manics.  Maybe if she did a  bong that night McNair woudl be alive today. 
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« Reply #88 on: July 21, 2009, 10:21:11 am »
Maybe the pot was to calm her before she off'ed her lover?
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« Reply #89 on: July 21, 2009, 07:18:36 pm »
Quote from: MyGodWearsAHoodie on July 20, 2009, 09:48:51 pm
So what he was drinking.  Getting drunk is legal.  Just don't drive. 

Who said it wasn't? Its just interesting knowing the state of mind they were in before the incident happened.  He was obviously drunk and fell asleep in the chair. He didn't know what hit him.

I doubt she smoked a joint before she offed him. She was a 20 yr old kid. Looking at her facebook pics she partied Regular.
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