Official 2009 World Series thread

[Dave Gray]

This is such a sham.  Baseball is embarrassing.

[YoFuggedaboutit]

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[YoFuggedaboutit]

This is such a sham.  Baseball is embarrassing.

Sham??  Give me a break Dave.  Of the 27 World Series the Yankees have won, only 7 of them have come under the Steinbrenner family's ownership.  I don't remember the Yankees buying players back in the 30's 40's and 50's.  That type of stuff didn't happen in those days. 

[dolphantom]

This is such a sham.  Baseball is embarrassing.



more sour grapes...........comon man, you gotta admit they earned it.

[dolphantom]

Sorry, Phantom, but it isn't like the Cowboys at all, as the NFL has a hard salary cap. And I get tired of the "money doesn't buy you championships" argument as well, because money DOES buy you talent, and talent wins world series. That's like two guys lining up for a 100 yard sprint, one guy jumps a half second early and says "just because I got a headstart doesn't mean I'm going to win." Of course it doesn't...but it sure as all hell increases your chances.

Yankees = evil
Non-capped professional sports league = unfair

These are not issues to debate, as much as they are truths to behold.

Viva la Senior Circuit!!

i'm not saying youre wrong........i just think that talent can get you so far. you need management, and team chemistry to win. every player, superstar or scrub has to play as one. witthout that, talent is useless. talent is just a piece of the puzzle. a piece that i have to admit, the yankees have the upper hand on.  but on the other hand, if having talent were all it took, the yanks would win every year....and they dont

[Denver_Bronco]

This is such a sham.  Baseball is embarrassing.

 

[FashionSoxGirl]

^^^  He could have said what Jeter and most of the Yankees said...."it's gonna be a tough series".  Instead Rollins was planning his outfit for the victory celebration. 

Maybe he's just girly.  I would always plan an outfit for something that important. (Higher on list than a speech for say an awards ceremony.)

Fuck the Yankees

That is all...

Yankees suck! Not in talent but in spirit.

[MaineDolFan]

I don't remember the Yankees buying players back in the 30's 40's and 50's.  That type of stuff didn't happen in those days. 

I wonder...do you ever think, before opening your mouth, "is this right?"  Time and time again there things coming off your fingers and into this message board that truly make me wonder.

The Yankees didn't buy players in the 20's, 30's, 40's and 50's?  Son, you need to do some research. 

Babe Ruth was not traded.  He was not signed by the Yankees as a free agent.  They didn't draft him.  They didn't discover him on some sand lot playing with his friends.

They BOUGHT HIM.  1919. 

But it goes deeper than that.  He was signed originally in 1913 by Baltimore.  Then he was sold to the Red Sox.  Then he was sold to the Yankees. 

Yep, Babe Ruth started his career as an O.

He wasn't some marginal "who is this guy" player in 1919 when the Red Sox sold him.  He was the best pitcher in the game, hands down.  A pitcher, by the way, that could hit.

Make A Rod a 18 game winning pitcher along with what he does now.  And then you get what Babe was in his day.

So, let's start there.  The Yankees had never won a damn thing until they BOUGHT Babe Ruth.  They won their first in 1923, three years after Babe made his 1920 debut.

"The Yankee Clipper?"  You know, a little guy named DiMaggio?  Purchased for $25,000 (and five players) from the San Francisco Seals in 1933.  He made his debut in 1936.  The Yankees hadn't won a World Series since 1932 at this point.  After DiMaggio's debut they won the next four.

In 1947 the Red Sox and Yankees had a deal in place to send Ted Williams to the Yankees in exchange for DiMaggio.  When Boston insisted Yogi Berra be included the deal was killed.

Yep, the Yankees almost had Ted freakin' Williams. 

1952 - The Kansas City A's traded Roger Maris to the Yankees.  Back in the 50's the A's were accused of being the Yankees personal farm league.  Any time the A's had a good player the Yankees wanted...the swooped in and grabbed him. 

Along with breaking a certain home run record, Maris was a pretty damned good player.  Gold glove winner, AL MVP, etc.  The Yankees obtained Maris for what turned out to be a melting pot of average, at best, players.  The Yankees needed a power bat with a good outfield glove.  So they went out and got him.

So I guess that kind of covers the 20's, 30's, 40's and 50's, yes? 

The Yankees have always - and I mean ALWAYS - been notorious for going out and getting what they need.  Either by flat out buying the player or a lopsided trade.  Case in point the Joe D / Ted Williams trade.  Joe D was at the end of his career and the Yankees needed to sweeten the pot for up and comer Ted Williams.  But they wouldn't...so the Sox walked.  Most teams didn't.  The Yankees would flash some cash and a handful of bad players for one stud and the team would drool, grab the money, say "thanks" and run the other way.

So, please...let's not romanticize the Yankees as a franchise that only started wheeling and dealing with Cleveland George took over the team.  Mkay?  'Cuz it just ain't true.

[Dave Gray]

They earned it?

Are you kidding?  They just buy the most talent from other teams.  It's a total joke.  They have the highest payroll every single year.

[Sunstroke]

The Yankees spent $450 million on free agents this past offseason alone...I would certainly hope they can win with that sort of expense account.

To put that $450 million free agent spending spree into perspective, it is $75 million more than the combined 2009 payrolls of the 4 NL Playoff teams (Dodgers-Phillies-Cardinals-Rockies)

Sure, MLB has a fair and balanced system...as long as you live in New York and own the Yankees.

[dolphantom]

They earned it?

Are you kidding?  They just buy the most talent from other teams.  It's a total joke.  They have the highest payroll every single year.

like i've been saying , you can buy the whole 1927 yankee team, it does not guarantee a win. its a TEAM sport.there has to be comraderie (did i spell that right?) and , yes, they've earned it. this year everyone contributed in a team effort. some of it was bought, yes, but they still have to click as a team.

[dolphantom]

The Yankees spent $450 million on free agents this past offseason alone...I would certainly hope they can win with that sort of expense account.

To put that $450 million free agent spending spree into perspective, it is $75 million more than the combined 2009 payrolls of the 4 NL Playoff teams (Dodgers-Phillies-Cardinals-Rockies)

Sure, MLB has a fair and balanced system...as long as you live in New York and own the Yankees.

i agree with you on this  point. there should be a cap . i also hate free agency. i beleive in the farm system, and hate importing foreigners to play in the mlb, when there is plenty of homegrown talent in the U.S..  what you and i hate about the yankee spending is bigger than just one team. the whole sports scene in this country is way out of control. the salaries, the steroids, the lack of respect for the sport and the opportunity to play in the bigs.. such as life. it sucks , but its life......

[YoFuggedaboutit]

I wonder...do you ever think, before opening your mouth, "is this right?"  Time and time again there things coming off your fingers and into this message board that truly make me wonder.

The Yankees didn't buy players in the 20's, 30's, 40's and 50's?  Son, you need to do some research. 

Babe Ruth was not traded.  He was not signed by the Yankees as a free agent.  They didn't draft him.  They didn't discover him on some sand lot playing with his friends.

They BOUGHT HIM.  1919. 

But it goes deeper than that.  He was signed originally in 1913 by Baltimore.  Then he was sold to the Red Sox.  Then he was sold to the Yankees. 

Yep, Babe Ruth started his career as an O.

He wasn't some marginal "who is this guy" player in 1919 when the Red Sox sold him.  He was the best pitcher in the game, hands down.  A pitcher, by the way, that could hit.

Make A Rod a 18 game winning pitcher along with what he does now.  And then you get what Babe was in his day.

So, let's start there.  The Yankees had never won a damn thing until they BOUGHT Babe Ruth.  They won their first in 1923, three years after Babe made his 1920 debut.

"The Yankee Clipper?"  You know, a little guy named DiMaggio?  Purchased for $25,000 (and five players) from the San Francisco Seals in 1933.  He made his debut in 1936.  The Yankees hadn't won a World Series since 1932 at this point.  After DiMaggio's debut they won the next four.

In 1947 the Red Sox and Yankees had a deal in place to send Ted Williams to the Yankees in exchange for DiMaggio.  When Boston insisted Yogi Berra be included the deal was killed.

Yep, the Yankees almost had Ted freakin' Williams. 

1952 - The Kansas City A's traded Roger Maris to the Yankees.  Back in the 50's the A's were accused of being the Yankees personal farm league.  Any time the A's had a good player the Yankees wanted...the swooped in and grabbed him. 

Along with breaking a certain home run record, Maris was a pretty damned good player.  Gold glove winner, AL MVP, etc.  The Yankees obtained Maris for what turned out to be a melting pot of average, at best, players.  The Yankees needed a power bat with a good outfield glove.  So they went out and got him.

So I guess that kind of covers the 20's, 30's, 40's and 50's, yes? 

The Yankees have always - and I mean ALWAYS - been notorious for going out and getting what they need.  Either by flat out buying the player or a lopsided trade.  Case in point the Joe D / Ted Williams trade.  Joe D was at the end of his career and the Yankees needed to sweeten the pot for up and comer Ted Williams.  But they wouldn't...so the Sox walked.  Most teams didn't.  The Yankees would flash some cash and a handful of bad players for one stud and the team would drool, grab the money, say "thanks" and run the other way.

So, please...let's not romanticize the Yankees as a franchise that only started wheeling and dealing with Cleveland George took over the team.  Mkay?  'Cuz it just ain't true.

OK.  I was wrong, I'll admit that.  I don't remember the Yankees buying players back in those days because I WASN'T AROUND THEN and neither were you.   

Now on a more serious note.  Don't blame the Yankees, blame the system.  It's going to be like this until baseball institutes a salary cap, and as long as the MLB Players Union is the way it is, that won't happen.

[dolphantom]

can't blame the steinbrenner family for being efficient businessmen. they know how to manipulate the system and make the right moves. theo epstein is another business prodigy. 

[Denver_Bronco]

They earned it?

I thought they actually played games. Maybe I am wrong. Do they just hand out championships based on payroll now?