Self-Defense

[Lee]

Lee, Florida doesn't recognize a duty to flee, right?

Correct, Florida is not one of those wussy states, believe it or not ;-)

[Gabriel]

Correct, Florida is not one of those wussy states, believe it or not ;-)

Just make sure you have a permit for your firearms and get to work cleaning up the neighborhood.

[Phishfan]

You don't need a permit for guns in Florida either (unless you want a concealed carry permit).

[Gabriel]

You don't need a permit for guns in Florida either (unless you want a concealed carry permit).

The bad guys aren't going to fall into the trap of f-ing with you if they know you're armed. Concealed is the only way to go.

[StL FinFan]

The bad guys aren't going to fall into the trap of f-ing with you if they know you're armed. Concealed is the only way to go.

So rather then have them leave you alone because they see you have a weapon, you would rather hide the weapon so you have an excuse to shoot someone?

[Gabriel]

So rather then have them leave you alone because they see you have a weapon, you would rather hide the weapon so you have an excuse to shoot someone?

I thought it would have been clear from the rest of my posts in this thread that my advocacy of using the "no requirement to flee" loop hole to advance vigilante justice was not serious.

[SCFinfan]

Correct, Florida is not one of those wussy states, believe it or not ;-)

The duty-to-flee states are mostly up in the northeast, right?

[YoFuggedaboutit]

I thought it would have been clear from the rest of my posts in this thread that my advocacy of using the "no requirement to flee" loop hole to advance vigilante justice was not serious.

I was kinda hoping it was.  Someone tries to break into my house, he's gonna be pumped full of lead.  But I won't kill him.  I'll make him wish he was dead.

[fyo]

I was kinda hoping it was.  Someone tries to break into my house, he's gonna be pumped full of lead.  But I won't kill him.  I'll make him wish he was dead.

You should go past subjunctive on his ass.

[Gabriel]

I was kinda hoping it was.  Someone tries to break into my house, he's gonna be pumped full of lead.  But I won't kill him.  I'll make him wish he was dead.

Tommy, you never shoot to maim. You gotta put at least two into the chest.

Follow up question for Lee and the other lawyers: In FL, can you shoot an intruder in your home in the back?

[Sunstroke]

You should go past subjunctive on his ass.

Over/under on the percentage of people who read this post and understood "past subjunctive" without looking it up?

10%-ish is my guess.

[Gabriel]

Over/under on the percentage of people who read this post and understood "past subjunctive" without looking it up?

10%-ish is my guess.

I'll take the under on that.

[Phishfan]

Tommy, you never shoot to maim. You gotta put at least two into the chest.

Follow up question for Lee and the other lawyers: In FL, can you shoot an intruder in your home in the back?

Always follow a chest shot with one to the head.

I beleive shooting in the back is probably a no-no everywhere.

[Gabriel]

Always follow a chest shot with one to the head.

I beleive shooting in the back is probably a no-no everywhere.

Head shots require a degree of competence that I wasn't willing to assume Tommy had.

I'm not sure about shooting in the back. I think it might be OK in some states if the target is an intruder in your home.

[dolphantom]

If things are the way you described it, then there should be no charges.

This reminds me of the Bernie Goetz case from 1984.  For those of you that don't know, Bernie (along with many other people) were fed up with crime in NYC.  He went to the Subway with an illegal firearm.  When 4 guys tried to mug him, he killed all of them.  He was eventually acquitted, but the general consensus was that he went into the Subway with an intent to kill, and used the mugging attempt as an excuse for vigilantism. 

The Watchmen Blu-Ray has an interesting documentary on it.

with all due respect , Dave............ none of the guys were killed. 3 were  injured , one was paralyzed.  also, he wasn't aquitted, he was  convicted for carrying an illegal firearm. released after completing 2/3 of a one year sentence.