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YoFuggedaboutit
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« on: November 07, 2009, 04:30:07 pm »

We've had this discussion before, but with the college football top 10 shaping up the way it is now, it would be cool to have it again. 

As you all know, 2007 and 2008 were seasons riddled with upsets.  Now currently, you have seven teams that are unbeaten, and six could very well stay that way.  Here are the seven unbeaten teams which also comprise the top seven in the latest BCS poll.

1. Florida 8-0
2. Texas 8-0
3. Alabama 8-0
4. Iowa 9-0
5. Cincinatti 8-0
6. TCU 8-0
7. Boise State 8-0

It's pretty much a foregone conclusion that Florida and Alabama will meet for the SEC Championship game, so one of them will walk away with a blemish on their record.  Which brings me to this point.  What happens if you have six unbeaten teams at season's end??

IMO, if the upsets of 2007 and 2008 don't make a case for a playoff system, this certainly does. 

Discuss.
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« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2009, 04:37:29 pm »

Six unbeatens now because Iowa sucks.
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« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2009, 11:21:09 pm »

Playoff.  You can even do it so they keep most of the bowl games.  Take the top 16 or 8 teams and make them play it out. 
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« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2009, 11:34:26 pm »

As long as the schools and NCAA are generating millions off the bowl games you will never see a playoff system.
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« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2009, 12:41:20 am »

As long as the schools and NCAA are generating millions off the bowl games you will never see a playoff system.

Bingo.  The University Presidents will line their pockets with those millions. 

And this is why Congress needs to continue their investigation and do what they need to do to declare the BCS as Unconstitutional. 

OK, we've got six unbeatens now, and we could very well end up with five at season's end. 
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« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2009, 11:13:17 am »

And this is why Congress needs to continue their investigation and do what they need to do to declare the BCS as Unconstitutional.   

First off all, I think the Congress has more important things to worry about than the bowl system. Second, please show me authority in the constitution that could serve as support to declare such a system as unconstitutional.    Roll Eyes

Anyway, I do agree that a playoff system in CFB is way overdo.  But it will not happen for the aforementioned monetary reasons. 
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« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2009, 05:43:09 pm »

I personally couldn't give a shit about the colleges and how much money they make off the bowl games (don't believe me, ask my alma mater).  There's money and there's doing what's right which will in the long term make you even more money.  The fact that they won't do it speaks volumes about the state of our universities in this country and is a big reason why I repeatedly thumb my nose at academia. 
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« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2009, 06:42:44 pm »

I do not see how academia has anything to do with it. It is all about the trustees, boards, and pure greed
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« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2009, 11:10:03 pm »

I support a playoff system.

That said, I don't think that this conversation means squat until you're at the end of the season and there are more than 2 zero loss teams from major conferences.  The Boise States of the world are cool stories, but nationally, nobody cares.  Also, nobody cares when 1 loss teams bicker about who should have the chance to play.

As for the money thing -- I'm sure that's the case, but why?  Couldn't you still have the bowls, but make the bowls as part of the playoff system?
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« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2009, 07:27:40 am »

I do not see how academia has anything to do with it. It is all about the trustees, boards, and pure greed

Actually academia would have a lot to do with it.  Seeing as the playoffs would come in the month between the last game of the season and the major bowl games, and the students have finals during that time, that would be another thing to take into consideration.
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« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2009, 08:55:03 am »

Here's hoping they have a true #1 and a true #2 again so that I don't have to listen to another offseason of University X got screwed by the BCS
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« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2009, 09:50:55 am »


As for the money thing -- I'm sure that's the case, but why?  Couldn't you still have the bowls, but make the bowls as part of the playoff system?

I'm not sure you would get the same attendance numbers. Think about it, there are teams who typically travel very well to support their team in a bowl game but they only have to travel to one game. How many of those people are going to be able to afford to travel multiple times? I think you are going to take attendance losses by having teams in a playoff.
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« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2009, 11:26:55 am »

I'm not sure you would get the same attendance numbers. Think about it, there are teams who typically travel very well to support their team in a bowl game but they only have to travel to one game. How many of those people are going to be able to afford to travel multiple times? I think you are going to take attendance losses by having teams in a playoff.

And that is why you wait until you get to the final four teams before you start using the BCS bowl sites. 

There are four BSC Bowl Sites:  Miami (Orange), New Orleans (Sugar), Phoenix (Fiesta) and L.A. (Rose). 

Two of those sites can host the semifinals, then the following week one site can host the "third place" game and one can host the championship.  The four sites can rotate every year.
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« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2009, 01:34:57 pm »

^^^ That still doesn't address the fact that people would likely not be able to afford going to more than one game.
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« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2009, 02:03:30 pm »

^^^ That still doesn't address the fact that people would likely not be able to afford going to more than one game.

Maybe they will be able to afford going to two games instead of one.
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