The BCS should be against the law.

[Philly Fin Fan]

I read an article earlier this season on CBS Sportsline about Boise State, and how they have problems getting early fall (pre-conference) games against "big name schools". They've offered to go anywhere in the country to play, and no schools take them up on it, because they are worried about getting beat by a non-BCS school.

A playoff system is needed. No doubt. Jim Mora should be in charge of it.

[YoFuggedaboutit]

I"m shocked that FSU is in the Gator Bowl with a 6-6 record.  They should've gone to Boise with that record.... or the Emerald Bowl. 

[bsfins]

there are too many bowl games.

I read an article earlier this season on CBS Sportsline about Boise State, and how they have problems getting early fall (pre-conference) games against "big name schools". They've offered to go anywhere in the country to play, and no schools take them up on it, because they are worried about getting beat by a non-BCS school.

A playoff system is needed. No doubt. Jim Mora should be in charge of it.

Bingo...There's your Problem...too many Bowl games...I just love threads that drop F- bombs in the title....

[Phishfan]

I"m shocked that FSU is in the Gator Bowl with a 6-6 record.  They should've gone to Boise with that record.... or the Emerald Bowl. 

Bobby put the word out and petitioned to keep them in Florida for his last game. Now you get to feel the WVU rath.

[JVides]

Not to side with the BCS, but does anyone know who TCU and Boise State even played?

I see TCU playing teams like: Virginia, Texas State, Southern Methodist, Air Force, Colorado State, UNLV, San Diego State, Wyoming, and New Mexico.  Combined records: 43-64.  9 of their 12 games were against creampuffs (Division II or weak Division I programs).  Would TCU be a great team playing even in the Big 10 or ACC?

I have some sympathy for TCU and Boise State, but they need to schedule stronger teams (just because you go 12-0 beating up on weak teams doesn't mean you're great team).

* I say this having done marginal research.  I could be totally off.

[Phishfan]

I think some of this is just about rooting for the little guy. There is no mention of Cincinnati in this thread and they are undefeated and ahead of both these teams.

[Sunstroke]

Not to side with the BCS, but does anyone know who TCU and Boise State even played?

With Boise State, the answer is "anyone with the balls to accept their challenge." Boise State has tried for the last 3-4 years to get any of the big dogs to put them on the schedule, and Boise State has even said "we'll travel to you and play in your stadium," but no one wants to schedule them, for fear of getting their butt kicked.

I agree with Dave...sue the BCS's ass and let's get righteousness back in college football!!

[Dave Gray]

I'm not arguing that either Boise State or TCU are better than Texas or Oklahoma.

Even allowing that argument to happen legitimizes the BCS.  I'm arguing that it doesn't matter if they're better.  Who is better is not something that's decided by conversation, even if the resulting answer is the correct one.  These small schools don't have the opportunity to just join a different NCAA where they can go make their money.  They're stuck with this one.  ...and within this one, they have won all of their games, but are still denied that opportunity.  It's a monopoly that needs oversight from the Federal Government.

[Philly Fin Fan]

With Boise State, the answer is "anyone with the balls to accept their challenge." Boise State has tried for the last 3-4 years to get any of the big dogs to put them on the schedule, and Boise State has even said "we'll travel to you and play in your stadium," but no one wants to schedule them, for fear of getting their butt kicked.

I agree with Dave...sue the BCS's ass and let's get righteousness back in college football!!

Word. I commented on this in the other BCS thread. I read an article about it earlier this season.

[Sunstroke]

Word. I commented on this in the other BCS thread. I read an article about it earlier this season.

They actually had a segment on ESPN's College Football show earlier in the year where they talked to Boise State's coach, AD, some of the players...and they were all really intent on getting some of the big schools to take them on. They tried everyone in the Pac-10, Big-10 and Big-12...even threw an invitation at Notre Dame.

I can see downgrading a team's accomplishments if they don't play anyone of substance...but if a team legitimately TRIES to get the good teams on their schedule, I don't think you can downgrade them at all. I wish we could downgrade some of the teams that turned them down though...

[JVides]

^^^That would be great.  I think teams that play the "8 home, 4 away" game with 4 of the home games being against creampuffs should be downgraded somewhat.  Many, many teams do this.

 UM plays 6 home, 6 away.  USC plays 6 home, 6 away.  Both teams (and others, to be sure) try to schedule tough opponents.  Why don't more teams do this? 

[Philly Fin Fan]

They actually had a segment on ESPN's College Football show earlier in the year where they talked to Boise State's coach, AD, some of the players...and they were all really intent on getting some of the big schools to take them on. They tried everyone in the Pac-10, Big-10 and Big-12...even threw an invitation at Notre Dame.

I can see downgrading a team's accomplishments if they don't play anyone of substance...but if a team legitimately TRIES to get the good teams on their schedule, I don't think you can downgrade them at all. I wish we could downgrade some of the teams that turned them down though...

The article I read was most likely the exact same story.

They brought up the fact that a lot of "cream puffs" will only play at a major program if they can  schedule a home and home series. Boise State didn't even want that. They just said "we'll come to you and play you at your home stadium. No return trip required!"

[Spider-Dan]

Not to side with the BCS, but does anyone know who TCU and Boise State even played?

Boise State beat Oregon, who won the Pac-10.
TCU beat Clemson, who finished 2nd in the ACC, as well as beating BYU and Utah (both of whom were ranked No.16 at the time they played TCU).

Since you asked.

[Philly Fin Fan]

For reference, here's a story in the same lin eof thought as what Sunstroke and I both mentioned:

http://www.idahostatesman.com/sports/story/960289.html

WAC boss: Boise State struggling to find opponent for 2011
Several high-profile programs have turned down a chance to play a home game against Boise State in 2011, WAC commissioner Karl Benson said Tuesday.

Boise State - with help from ESPN, Benson said - has been shopping for a game to fill out its 2011 schedule.

Benson isn't sure of the exact number of schools that have said no, but figures it is close to 10. The Broncos aren't asking for any games in Boise in return, he said.

"They're running into a situation where nobody will schedule them, nobody will take them," Benson said.

Boise State athletic director Gene Bleymaier wasn't available for comment.

The Broncos have seven home games and five road games scheduled for 2011, but don't have a Bowl Championship Series-conference opponent. Bleymaier wants to add a BCS road game as the 13th game to fix that hole. The other nonconference opponents in 2011 are Utah, Tulsa and Wyoming in Boise and Toledo on the road.

Benson also said the WAC has hired an Idaho public relations firm to do some research and arrange media interviews to help push Boise State's BCS case. The WAC also hired a public-relations firm to push for Hawaii's inclusion in 2007, he said.

"We're trying to establish a message," Benson said.

[Phishfan]

^^^That would be great.  I think teams that play the "8 home, 4 away" game with 4 of the home games being against creampuffs should be downgraded somewhat.  Many, many teams do this.

 UM plays 6 home, 6 away.  USC plays 6 home, 6 away.  Both teams (and others, to be sure) try to schedule tough opponents.  Why don't more teams do this? 

I think most teams either have 6 or 7 home games. I don't know anyone of the bigs who have 8.