2010 Draft Talk

[Tenshot13]

^ Nice rundown there Stroke.

1)  Of course I'm going to agree with you on any South Florida guy you want on the fins .  I'd also take George Selvie with the 3rd rounder, even though he's fallen off a lot of people's radar due to having a bad senior year.  Actually, Selvie may be a 4th rounder, so I'd take him then.

2)  I've also watched a few Central Mich games and Dan LeFevour is the real deal.  The guy has a "never say die" attitude.  I think he'd be an awesome pickup for your 49ers in the 3rd.

3)  Coleman seems like a late round gem.  He has decent stats, a lot of experience, and decent size.

I've said this a few time now, but I really want to draft Micah Johnson in the 3rd.  He is huge and, if healthy, would be an absolute beast on our team.  In my mock, I have us taking Terrence Cody 1st, Danario Alexander in the 2nd (StL convinced me ), and with Johnson in the 3rd, that is hell of a first three picks.  Imagine, Cody at NT...6'5'' 365 lbs.....Johnson at MLB, 6'2'' 254 lbs....maybe mix in a package where you have Cody and Soliai on the same line.  *Drools*

[Sunstroke]

In the previous Walter mock, he had my 49ers taking 4 players in the first 3 rounds that I absolutely would have LOVED to see wearing 49ers caps on draft day. He had us taking CB Joe Haden, OT Brian Bulaga, OG Mike Iupati (Both OL sides of beef I'm enamored with) and WR Danario Alexander. I swear, I had a pigskin semi for several days when that posted.

[RhodeIslandPhinFan]

The last Mock that I checked out had us taking Rolando McClain at #12 and Jeremy Williams WR, Tulane in round 2.

My question is, what are your thoughts on Myron Rolle?  He is back from his year at Oxford, and is a very shift safety.  I am looking forward to seeing what he does at Senior Bowl practice and the game.

[Sunstroke]

I was watching the Senior Bowl practices yesterday on NFLN, and am already starting to drool over some of the players I'm seeing out there.

I am not as high as some on WR Jeremy Williams. He seems like he half-ass's routes sometimes and loses focus. I also think his numbers at Tulane were padded a bit by the fact that Tulane seemed like they were ALWAYS down big, early in games this season, and they basically spent the last 3/4 of almost every game in desperation air-it-out mode.

[Tenshot13]

The last Mock that I checked out had us taking Rolando McClain at #12 and Jeremy Williams WR, Tulane in round 2.

My question is, what are your thoughts on Myron Rolle?  He is back from his year at Oxford, and is a very shift safety.  I am looking forward to seeing what he does at Senior Bowl practice and the game.

I wouldn't mind taking Rolando McClain in the first.  The way Terrence Cody's draft stock is going right now, we could get both him and McClain in the first two rounds.  I have to agree with Stroke...I think Jeremy Williams is a tad over-rated, as are guys like Arrelious Benn and Marshawn Gilyard.  I just hope Danario Alexander is around in the 3rd round (StL sold me on him ).

I think Myron Rolle would be an excellent late round acquisition.  6'2'' 220 lbs and runs a 4.4 forty.  He is pretty raw though.  He could be Bell's eventual replacement, and could learn a thing or two from him.  Hell, with that speed, he could probably play FS too.

[Sunstroke]

I have to agree with Stroke...I think Jeremy Williams is a tad over-rated, as are guys like Arrelious Benn and Marshawn Gilyard. 

I think Myron Rolle would be an excellent late round acquisition.  6'2'' 220 lbs and runs a 4.4 forty.  He is pretty raw though.  He could be Bell's eventual replacement, and could learn a thing or two from him.  Hell, with that speed, he could probably play FS too.

* I actually like Arrelious Benn a bit, but for one specific reason and no other. I believe he has better "body control" than any WR in this class. Not saying he's the best, or even top-5 overall, but when it comes to adjusting his body mid-air, sliding off hard collisions, that sort of body control, he is pretty amazing. I also think that is one particular skill that can't be coached into a receiver. You either have that natural body control or you don't.

* I heard a couple of guys on the radio talk about Rolle being a late round pick as well, but I just don't see it working out that way, for a couple of reasons. First, I think he is going to impress greatly in individual workouts on the physical side, and you KNOW that no one is going to interview better than the articulate Rhodes scholar. Second, any devaluing that could come from his taking a year off from football is easily offset by the fact that Rhodes scholarships are fairly good signs of extreme intelligence, and safety is a position where a good brain is as valuable as fast feet. I don't see him getting out of round 3, and if he really impresses with the physical stuff, I'll bet he sneaks into round two.

If he's there in round 3, I would be ecstatic to have him on either the Phins or Niners next season.

[Tenshot13]

Because I'm bored, and I want something to do, I decided to look over tape on all the top WR prospects.

Dez Bryant
Height: 6-2. Weight: 210.
Pros: Great size, fantastic jump ball ability, physical, fast long striding runner.
Cons:  Doesn't run good routes, more of a fly route guy that jumps up and battles for the ball

Damian Williams
Height: 6-1. Weight: 190.
Pros: Fantastic route runner, soft hands, surprisingly elusive, great concentration.
Cons:  Slight frame, slower than I thought (but quick).

Arrelious Benn
Height: 6-2. Weight: 214.
Pros:  Very physical, good size, a lot faster than I initially thought, good concentration.
Cons: Average route runner, drops passes.
(I'm eating my words from earlier Stroke...after watching some more film on him, I'm impressed).

Brandon LaFell
Height: 6-3. Weight: 209.
Pros: Physical, great size, agile for size, good jump ball ability, Hines Ward type blocker
Cons: Drops easy catches, route running could be better

Golden Tate
Height: 5-11. Weight: 195.
Pros: Excellent route runner, very soft hands, elusive, fast, can run the Wildcat
Cons: Small size...that is really the only thing I could find bad about him

Jeremy Williams
Height: 6-0. Weight: 205.
Pros: Good jump ball receiver, good route runner
Cons: Slow top end speed (not a home run threat), not very physical, average build, seems afraid of contact

Jordan Shipley
Height: 6-0. Weight: 195.
Pros: Insane concentration, very elusive, pretty good route runner (runs the sickest double moves I've ever seen), not afraid to go over the middle.
Cons: Doesn't have elite top end speed, somewhat small

Eric Decker
Height: 6-2. Weight: 215.
Pros: Great possession WR, soft hands, physical, not afraid of contact
Cons: Slow, not a home run threat

Marshawn Gilyard
Height: 6-0. Weight: 179.
Pros: Home run threat, elusive, fast
Cons: Toothpick frame, avoids contact, doesn't break tackles, sometimes lacks concentration

Danario Alexander
Height: 6-5. Weight: 221.
Pros: Massive build, very physical, fights for that extra yard, fast for his size
Cons: Bad route runner, drops easy catches from time to time, doesn't have elite speed, stats are a little inflated due to a lot of catches being bubble screens.


Benn, LaFell, Tate, or Alexander are all good choices IMO.

[Tenshot13]

I'm watching the senior bowl right now.  Man, NT Dan Williams looks impressive.  I wouldn't mind taking him with our first rounder.

Brandon Grahm, DE Michigan, has a motor that doesn't stop.  Already has 2 sacks, 1 FF, and a tackle for loss.  Guy is always in the backfield.

[Tenshot13]

Gilyard had a great game...over one hundred yards and a touchdown at the senior bowl.  I'm still not sold on him because I think he won't be able to get off the jam at the next level.  On the flip side, the announcers were comparing him to DeShaun Jackson, so who knows.

[Tenshot13]

Non-subconscious note to Tenshot13... The more film I watch on Jason Pierre-Paul, the more I want my 49ers to take him with our second 1st round pick.

The guy is a certified beast...I don't know if you saw, but Matt McGuire on Walterfootball had Miami taking JPP with our first rounder...if McClaine and Dan Williams were off the board by then, I'd say sure, why not, but I don't think he's better than those two.

Having said that, I still believe he is the best hybrid DE/OLB in this draft, but unfortunalty, that is not as much an immediate need as ILB / NT / or even WR (although, I still think I'd take JPP over Dez Bryant). 

The only downside I know of for JPP is he is stupid.  Like REALLY stupid.  Vince Young Wonderlic stupid.  Seriously though, how smart do you need to be to play OLB?  If you are "football smart" it doesn't really matter how intelligent you actually are.

I've also hear that people are scared that he was just a one year wonder.  I'm sorry, but look at the guy.  He is as athletically gifted as a OLB / hybrid DE can be, plus he has the stats to back it up.

So, in conclusion, I've watched him all year long, seeing as I'm a USF honk an all, and yeah Stroke...I'm glad you see how "sexy" a pick he could be....hell, I'd be happy as hell if he were a Phin.  I think he might be the first All Pro USF guy in the NFL (as far as I know Kawika Mitchell is the closest thing, but I think JPP can be a Superstar).

[BigDaddyFin]

I think we'd do well to go defense with the first pick.  I'd like to see us take a nose tackle or inside linebacker.

[YoFuggedaboutit]

I see a couple of mocks having the Dolphins taking OLB Sergio Kindle of Texas.  Anyone got a writeup on him?

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I see a couple of mocks having the Dolphins taking OLB Sergio Kindle of Texas.  Anyone got a writeup on him?

I think he could be a good OLB, but he is a tad over-rated.  He has good size (6-4 255 lbs.) and is versatile.  His problem is he gets washed by blockers and he's not very physical considering his athleticism.  He'll go in the first round, but I think he's more of a 2nd or 3rd round guy.  He reminds me a little of Gaines Adams...all finesse and no physicality.  With some coaching at the next level, he could be great, but if I'm going to spend a 1st round pick on a rush LB, I'd spend it on JPP or try and get Jerry Hughes in the 2nd round.

[BigDaddyFin]

^^^^
The problem with that is I actually think we're pretty well set up at rush/OLB for now. 

What we need to find out is can Cameron Wake and/or Charlie Anderson be an every down player.  We know JT doesn't have much left except as a pass rusher anymore, and Porter it seems will be gone. 

I'd much rather we got Pierce and drafted ILB at least with the early picks.  We need help but I see OLB as being a 3rd round or lower priority where ILB/NT for sure and Safety are bigger needs.

[Tenshot13]

^^^^
The problem with that is I actually think we're pretty well set up at rush/OLB for now. 

What we need to find out is can Cameron Wake and/or Charlie Anderson be an every down player.  We know JT doesn't have much left except as a pass rusher anymore, and Porter it seems will be gone. 

I'd much rather we got Pierce and drafted ILB at least with the early picks.  We need help but I see OLB as being a 3rd round or lower priority where ILB/NT for sure and Safety are bigger needs.

I totally agree with you.  As much of a USF honk as I am, I'd still be a little upset if we used our first rounder JPP or any OLB for that matter.  It's ILB / NT or bust if you ask me.  Rolando McClaine, ILB Alabama should be our pick, and if he's gone, then Dan Williams, NT Tenn will be there.  I'd be ecstatic to have either.