2010 Draft Talk

[Tenshot13]

Here is a "what if" situation... if Berry or Haden drop to us, do we draft them?  I say definitely on Berry, and probably on Haden, then we could move Sean Smith to FS.

[Sunstroke]

If Berry is there, it's a no-brainer, unless the reason he's sliding to #12 (injury, arrest, whatever, between now and then) is enough to make Miami check themselves as well.

Haden...I kinda wish Miami would just let him slide on down to SF at #17, because he is #1 on my wish list for that half of my Pigskin Self. I think an NFL team needs 3 good cover guys, whether that's 3 CBs or 2 CBs and a versatile FS, so I'd have no problem (ok, just a small problem) with Miami drafting Haden.

[bsfins]

I'm not sure about first round, but I wouldn't be surprised to see us take corner fairly high...Even with all our other needs...

Will Allen is older,and coming off an injury..We lost Nate Jones to the Broncos in Free agency,which leaves Vontae Davis,Sean Smith,Jason Allen,and Evan Oglesby as the only corners.(Plus our hole at FS)...I CAN see the Trifecta doing like they did when they drafted guys like Jason Fergason,Jay Ratliff, and wait and take them in the lower rounds....

[Tenshot13]

At this point I would be happy with the Dolphins taking Jason Pierre-Paul, Dez Bryant, Dan Williams or Brandon Graham, as long as it's not Sergio Kindle.

[bsfins]

Do you guy's think Washington not needing a QB changes anything in the top ten in the draft? Might it change who falls to us?

[Sunstroke]

Hard to say...they may look at McNabb as the short-term fix and draft a QB in round one anyway, or they may think he's good for 2-3 years and pass on Clausen in round one and draft a different position. I don't think it will have a huge effect on Miami though, as I think any non-QB that Washington might draft at #4 will be an O-lineman (probably Okung), who likely isn't on Miami's draft list. It might affect some other teams, who could, in turn, snatch one of the defensive players that Miami is targeting though...it's a domino thing when you deal with draft repercussions.

[BigDaddyFin]

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I don't think Washington's trade will affect who falls to us all that much.  You have to remember we're not really looking for a quarterback especially in the first round, so the way I look at it is, even if this guy were available would we draft him?  I would guess that the McNabb trade means that Clausen will actually fall into the mid-to-late first round because a lot of people aren't sold on him, and this may knock Tim Tebow down to a late 1/early 2 area. 

Also Stroke, in reference to your earlier suggestions about Suh and McCoy, I don't recall defensive tackles taken at or near the top 10 a particularly sound pick, but I could be wrong. 

[fyo]

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I don't think Washington's trade will affect who falls to us all that much.  You have to remember we're not really looking for a quarterback especially in the first round

I dispute your logic

The Redskins are going to pick SOMEONE at #4. That pick can affect all subsequent picks, including ours. The obvious choice for the Skins, IMHO, would be a big tackle for the Oline. To me, the top of this draft (first half of round 1) is shaping up to be a run on tackles. Let's say Washington goes with Okung. Well, half the teams picking between the Redskins and the Dolphins are also potentially in the market. If "their guy" is picked, those teams could well go DB or DE.

THAT would affect the Dolphins' pick.

Of course, there are so many holes to address on this team, that it doesn't really matter. I can't imagine that Suh or McCoy fall, but one of Eric Berry (S), Derick Morgan (DE), Dan Williams (NT), Rolando McLain (ILB), JPP (DE), or Joe Haden (CB) is bound to be available at #12. Even Dez Bryant would be a reasonable pick, IMHO. It would certainly address a huge need...

[Tenshot13]

I dispute your logic

The Redskins are going to pick SOMEONE at #4. That pick can affect all subsequent picks, including ours. The obvious choice for the Skins, IMHO, would be a big tackle for the Oline. To me, the top of this draft (first half of round 1) is shaping up to be a run on tackles. Let's say Washington goes with Okung. Well, half the teams picking between the Redskins and the Dolphins are also potentially in the market. If "their guy" is picked, those teams could well go DB or DE.

THAT would affect the Dolphins' pick.

Of course, there are so many holes to address on this team, that it doesn't really matter. I can't imagine that Suh or McCoy fall, but one of Eric Berry (S), Derick Morgan (DE), Dan Williams (NT), Rolando McLain (ILB), JPP (DE), or Joe Haden (CB) is bound to be available at #12. Even Dez Bryant would be a reasonable pick, IMHO. It would certainly address a huge need...

Good post, I was this thinking the same thing earlier.  I think we can all agree that we are guaranteed to take on of the guys listed, adding in Earl Thomas and Brandon Graham, so how do you rank them in wanting them on the phins?  I say:

1- Eric Berry
2- JPP
3- Joe Haden (Sean Smith can be moved to FS)
4- Dan Williams
5- Dez Bryant
6- Brandon Graham
7- Derrick Morgan
8- Earl Thomas
9- Rolando McClain

Realistically, I'd be happy with any one of them, but I wish the idiots at NFL.com would stop saying we're going to take Sergio Kindle.  He is a second round pick at best and I personally think he'll bust.

[bsfins]

Ok Hopefully  this takes Dez Bryant (thankfully) off our draft board..

Fairly safe assumption Dez Bryant is most likely a Bronco.

I Guess the Front office didn't thin there was enough upside with Tate or Benn in the 2nd round....

Where do we go with our third round pick (73 overall), which just became more important...

[raptorsfan29]

one thing i want to know, does this mean we are definitely going defense with our first round pick.

[Sunstroke]

one thing i want to know, does this mean we are definitely going defense with our first round pick.

Yes...100% guaranteed. It was probably a lock even before the Marshall Plan.

[bsfins]

Bumpty,Bump,Bump.....After reading Tenshot's Mock draft, and thinking about my questions there....Then after reading Peter King's Mock draft,loving the idea of trading down with the Eagles,and picking up second round picks....(But didn't really like the idea of taking a RB in the first round)

How far down could we drop back,and still get DT Dan Williams?

[Tenshot13]

Bumpty,Bump,Bump.....After reading Tenshot's Mock draft, and thinking about my questions there....Then after reading Peter King's Mock draft,loving the idea of trading down with the Eagles,and picking up second round picks....(But didn't really like the idea of taking a RB in the first round)

How far down could we drop back,and still get DT Dan Williams?

Hmm, that's a tough one...first off, he might be gone by the time we pick at #12 because Buffalo or Denver might take him...after that, there is a possibility that the Giants might take him over Brian Price at #15, then there is a good posibility of the Texans taking him at #20, Dallas at #27 and at the very latest the Chargers at #28.  Because he is the highest rated NT in the draft, it's less about "best player available" and more about "we need a dominant NT for our 3-4, and will reach if we have to".  Then again, I think Dan Williams should be in the same discussion as Suh and McCoy, talent wise, but that's just my opinion.

[bsfins]

^ thank you...That's what I was wondering,Who else might take him....