Henne as the 2010 Starter

[MaineDolFan]

What's more likely - Chad Henne and his "cannon" arm under-throwing someone, or Ted Ginn Jr. fucking up a route?

Does Yatil Gre...errrrrrrrrr, Ginn Junior RUN routes?  How can he fuck them up if he doesn't know how to run one?

Ginn Jr = the second biggest piece of overpaid crap on this team, second only to Joey Porter.

[Philly Fin Fan]

Ginn Jr = the second biggest piece of overpaid crap on this team, second only to Joey Porter.

Nope, he's third. Porter and White are ahead of him (at least Ginn contributed somewhat, unlike White).

[Dolphin-UK]

You don't name your starting QB for next season when this one is still running, you make it a competition, you give the QB's an incentive to work hard in the offseason and THEN you can start thinking about it.

[Tepop84]

Also, everyone saying that Thigpen would be Henne's sole competition, Henne isn't the best qb named chad on the roster. I would like to see pennington come back for 1 more year.

[Brian Fein]

Pennington is a free agent, and the likelihood of him re-signing with the Dolphins is slim, IMO.

[fyo]

Pennington is a free agent, and the likelihood of him re-signing with the Dolphins is slim, IMO.

I agree. Pennington has his limitations, but he's good enough to start for at least a good handful of teams. Why would he come back to Miami?

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

I agree with Jtex.  There will be a "camp battle" but the job is Henne's to lose. 

[EDGECRUSHER]

This was Henne's first season as a pro. Let me just write that again and in bold:

This was Henne's first season as a pro.

As a rookie, or guy playing in his first full year, you basically hope for general competence and not much else. No one expects him to go to the Pro Bowl or lead the league in any offensive category. You just want him to show he belongs and can improve, which he did as the season went on and they had to dump the Wildcat.

This is Sparano keeping everyone on their toes. Of course he is the starter for next season.

[Brian Fein]

Down the stretch, the last 5 games of the season, Henne broke 300 yards 4* of them.  I put an asterisk by the "4" because the last game he got pulled at halftime with 140 yards and I believe he was on pace to break 300 again.

Henne only started 13 games, yet finished with 400 more yards (and 6 less INT's) than Mark Sanchez, who started 15 games.  And, only 38 yards LESS than Matt Ryan, who started 14 games.  And only 46 yards less than Matt Cassel, who started 15 games (and is making $15 million).  And he did all of that with no #1 WR.

How many of you would like Matt Ryan as the Dolphins' QB?

I believe Henne is better...

[Tepop84]

of course that is a terrible post. 300 yards is pretty meaningless when you throw it 44+ times.  you mention doing it eithout a number 1 receiver, well the dolphins rushing attack was pretty good and teams where stacking the box against them making passing a lot easier.  chad henne led the league in pick 6s, didnt throw a lot of touchdowns and completed only 4 passes thrown greater than 21 yards.  he isnt that good.  why compare him to sanchez, sanchez isnt going to be good.

[Sunstroke]

How many of you would like Matt Ryan as the Dolphins' QB?

I believe Henne is better...

I really like Chad Henne, but I would trade Henne for Matt Ryan in a second.

[Brian Fein]

of course that is a terrible post. 300 yards is pretty meaningless when you throw it 44+ times.  you mention doing it eithout a number 1 receiver, well the dolphins rushing attack was pretty good and teams where stacking the box against them making passing a lot easier.  chad henne led the league in pick 6s, didnt throw a lot of touchdowns and completed only 4 passes thrown greater than 21 yards.  he isnt that good.  why compare him to sanchez, sanchez isnt going to be good.

you're the most biased person on this forum.  Are you Chad Pennington's brother?

The last 5 games, the Dolphins starting RB was on IR.  Yeah, scary rushing attack.  If people were stacking the box, how did Ricky Williams finish with 1100+ yards?  

Henne only had 3 games with more than 36 attempts.

I want to see stats showing Henne leads the league in Pick-6.  Good luck with that.

Stop being such a hater.  Damn you're frustrating.  Henne is the best QB this team has seen since Marino.  Hands down.  Someday, you'll get on board...

[Tepop84]

so henne has only had 3 games with 300+ yards passing, and in those games he had 46, 52, and 55 attempts.  you must be blind if you think that yeams werent stacking the box against miami. Ricky is good and so is the oline which is why he had 1100+ yards rushing. And henne is terrible and deep passes, which is why he completed 4 passes thrown 21+ yards to dolphins players and 4 passes to opposing players.  maybe take off your rose colored glasses and see that he really isnt very good.  (and while you have them off, take a look at ronnie brown and you will see he is terrible too)

[Brian Fein]

so henne has only had 3 games with 300+ yards passing, and in those games he had 46, 52, and 55 attempts.  you must be blind if you think that yeams werent stacking the box against miami. Ricky is good and so is the oline which is why he had 1100+ yards rushing. And henne is terrible and deep passes, which is why he completed 4 passes thrown 21+ yards to dolphins players and 4 passes to opposing players.  maybe take off your rose colored glasses and see that he really isnt very good.  (and while you have them off, take a look at ronnie brown and you will see he is terrible too)

Yeah I'm going to take your objective player evaluation as gospel...

[ethurst22]

Yes you did, but it was pure conjecture as far as I could tell. I really doubt you have the playbook at home and know how deep the pattern was suppose to be.

This one is simple to answer.

Most of you guys base your judgment on a play from the CBS network broadcasts. All you have to do is tune into the coaches corner on the NFL network and they show you the play from the backside of the defense what happened on a game changing play. You may get one or two views of the play from the defensive side on network television and that's it.

1. Ginn DID run the wrong pattern. He was supposed to run a five yard curl but he was probably afraid of being hit. Ginn was at the goal line BEHIND the two Steeler defenders. If that's the case, he should have just kept running to the back of the end zone.

Quarterbacks are taught to throw to a spot NOT directly at the receiver unless its a sure thing. Montana was great at throwing at spots and Dan Marino could throw anywhere or at anything at any time and because of his quick release, get away with a lot of stuff before the DB could adjust or turn his head.

2. I would bet my money on Steve Smith or Hines Ward running the right pattern, catching the ball or knocking it down. Ginn overran the pattern.

If you ever played football before, this stuff is elementary. You can tell when a receiver is not running the pattern out or correctly and a lot of time, the INT is not the QB's fault in this case.

If a receiver sees that his QB is in trouble, he can run through or run to an open spot , preferably using the sideline as a buffer between him and the defensive back. Elementary football.

As for Henne being the best QB since Marino, the jury is out on that one. I still say that Thigpen has more tools than Henne. If Henne doesn't develop touch next year, he will be riding the pine. All it would take is a three game losing streak for that to happen.

Ginn will be selling real estate in a couple of years and if Henne doesn't get some touch, he'll be selling used cars.