Republican Scott Brown wins Massachusetts.Democrats Point Fingers

[Buddhagirl]

 obama managed to put us in a bigger hole in one year , than bush did in 8.

How so? I like specifics.

[bsmooth]

 obama managed to put us in a bigger hole in one year , than bush did in 8.

Yes I would like to know all the costly legislation that affected us so badly this last year?

[dolphantom]

How so? I like specifics.

youre kidding right???

one word,  " bailouts"  , or maybe try this one...."stimulus" who's paying for it? not the government, but the taxpayers. we are spending trillions we dont have.and where did it go? why are we still at almost 10% unemployment after all that spending? and dont say its only been a year, because thats bullshit.  the whole thing was an utter and complete failure, everyone knows it.  and will cost us all in the future.  but people are starting to see through the smoke and mirrors, and are reacting. (mass. senate election.)  and come november , its all over for the dems, and they know it. thats why obama is scrambling to get his health care reform (another disaster) pushed through before the roof caves in , and he's got no juice. truth be told, no country has ever spent themselves into prosperity. anyone who voted for this clown got snowed.

[dolphantom]

1. Mr. Obama is a very intellectual, charming individual.  He is not to be underestimated.  He is a cool customer who doesn't show his emotions.  It's very hard to know what's behind the mask.  The taking down of the Clinton dynasty was an amazing accomplishment.  The Clintons still do not understand what hit them.  Obama was in the perfect place at the perfect time.

2.  Obama has political skills comparable to Reagan and Clinton.  He has a way of making you think he's on your side, agreeing with your position, while doing the opposite.  Pay no attention to what he SAYS; rather, watch what he DOES!

3.  Obama has a ruthless quest for power.  He did not come to Washington to make something out of himself, but rather to change everything, including dismantling capitalism.  He can't be straightforward on his ambitions, as the public would not go along.
He has a heavy hand, and wants to level the playing field with income redistribution and punishment to the achievers of society.  He would like to model the USA to Great Britain or Canada.

4. His three main goals are to control ENERGY, PUBLIC EDUCATION, and NATIONAL HEALTHCARE by the Federal government.  He doesn't care about the auto or financial services industries, but got them as an early bonus.  The cap and trade will add costs to everything and stifle growth.  Paying for FREE college education is his goal.  Most scary is his healthcare program, because if you make it FREE and add 46,000,000 people to a Medicare-type single-payer system, the costs will go through the roof.  The only way to control costs is with massive RATIONING of services, like in Canada.  God forbid!

5. He has surrounded himself with mostly far-left academic types.  No one around him has ever even run a candy store.  But they are going to try and run the auto, financial, banking and other industries.  This obviously can't work in the long run.  Obama is not a socialist; rather he's a far-left secular progressive bent on nothing short of revolution. He ran as a moderate, but will govern from the hard left.  Again, watch what he does, not what he says.

6. Obama doesn't really see himself as President of the United States, but more as a ruler over the world.  He sees himself above it all, trying to orchestrate & coordinate various countries and their agendas.  He sees moral equivalency in all cultures.  His apology tour in Germany and England was a prime example of how he sees America, as an imperialist nation that has been arrogant, rather than a great noble nation that has at times made errors.  This is the first President ever who has chastised our allies and appeased our enemies!

7. He is now handing out goodies.  He hopes that the bill (and pain) will not come due until after he is reelected in 2012.  He would like to blame all problems on Bush from the past, and hopefully his successor in the future.  He has a huge ego, and he is a narcissist.

8. Republicans are in the wilderness for a while, but will emerge strong.  Republicans are pining for another Reagan, but there will never be another like him.  Mitt Romney, Tim Pawlenty & Bobby Jindahl (except for his terrible speech in February) are the future of the party.  Newt Gingrich is brilliant, but has baggage.  Sarah Palin is sincere and intelligent, but needs to really be seriously boning up on facts and info if she is to be a serious candidate in the future.  We need to return to the party of lower taxes, smaller government, personal responsibility, strong national defense, and state's rights.

9. The current level of spending is irresponsible and outrageous.  We are spending trillions that we don't have.  This could lead to hyperinflation, depression or worse.  No country has ever spent themselves into prosperity.  The media is giving Obama, Reid and Pelosi a pass because they love their agenda.  But eventually the bill will come due and people will realize the huge bailouts didn't work, nor will the stimulus package.  These were trillion-dollar payoffs to Obama's allies, unions and the Congress to placate the left, so he can get support for #4 above.

10. The election was over in mid-September when Lehman brothers failed, fear and panic swept in, we had an unpopular President, and the war was grinding on indefinitely without a clear outcome.  The people are in pain, and the mantra of change caused people to act emotionally.  Any Dem would have won this election; it was surprising it was as close as it was.

11. In 2012, if the unemployment rate is over 10%, Republicans will be swept back into power.  If it's under 8%, the Dems continue to roll. If it's between 8-10%, it will be a dogfight.  It will all be about the economy.  I hope this gets you really thinking about what's happening in Washington and Congress.  There is a left-wing revolution going on, ,  keep the faith and join the loyal resistance.  The work will be hard, but we're right on most issues and can reclaim our country, before it's far too late.               
 

[bsfins]

youre kidding right???

one word,  " bailouts"  , or maybe try this one...."stimulus" who's paying for it? not the government, but the taxpayers. we are spending trillions we dont have.and where did it go? why are we still at almost 10% unemployment after all that spending? and dont say its only been a year, because thats bullshit.  the whole thing was an utter and complete failure, everyone knows it.  and will cost us all in the future.  but people are starting to see through the smoke and mirrors, and are reacting. (mass. senate election.)  and come november , its all over for the dems, and they know it. thats why obama is scrambling to get his health care reform (another disaster) pushed through before the roof caves in , and he's got no juice. truth be told, no country has ever spent themselves into prosperity. anyone who voted for this clown got snowed.

You mean the Stimulas packages under Bush? or the Ones pushed through before right before Obama took office.....Ever think What the unemplyment rate would be if GM,Dodge,and AIG went under?  Just curious....

Flame away....

[Buddhagirl]

youre kidding right???

one word,  " bailouts"  , or maybe try this one...."stimulus" who's paying for it? not the government, but the taxpayers. we are spending trillions we dont have.and where did it go? why are we still at almost 10% unemployment after all that spending? and dont say its only been a year, because thats bullshit.  the whole thing was an utter and complete failure, everyone knows it.  and will cost us all in the future.  but people are starting to see through the smoke and mirrors, and are reacting. (mass. senate election.)  and come november , its all over for the dems, and they know it. thats why obama is scrambling to get his health care reform (another disaster) pushed through before the roof caves in , and he's got no juice. truth be told, no country has ever spent themselves into prosperity. anyone who voted for this clown got snowed.

Uhm...yeah. I thought the stimulus package started with Bush, but maybe I was drunk or something then. As far at the bailouts, I'm still in a wait and see mode. It took a long time to get this way, it'll take a long time to get out of it. Though, I'm not one that's all up in arms about the economy. (Nor have I ever been.)

I'm more frustrated with his social issues, but I'm just waiting to see what happens. I would like to see Obama stop pandering to the right and take care of things such as coming up with a healthcare bill that doesn't walk all over women's rights to choose and doing away with don't-ask-don't-tell.

Your second post makes no sense. Is that supposed to be opinion? Fact? Are you a teabagger?

[dolphantom]

You mean the Stimulas packages under Bush? or the Ones pushed through before right before Obama took office.....Ever think What the unemplyment rate would be if GM,Dodge,and AIG went under?  Just curious....

Flame away....

flame away? Thats what happening to our prez one year in. oh , how the mighty have fallen.........

now you tell me........ what did AIG do with the money given to them again?? oh yeah , i guess you missed the part where they blew it all on trips and bonuses for the ceo's and execs. And yeah, cash for clunkers? the auto bailout did so very well that obama had to initiate cash for clunkers.  please....... stop letting the wool get pulled over your eyes. and stop with  the bush nonsense. bush is gone, and has nothing to do with any of the trillions (that we dont have) that obama is spending. the bailout saved nothing. try to tell that to the millions of people still out of work, and i guarantee you won't be able to walk the street.

 so , i'll say it again.......no country has ever spent themselves into prosperity.

[StL FinFan]

flame away? Thats what happening to our prez one year in. oh , how the mighty have fallen.........

now you tell me........ what did AIG do with the money given to them again?? oh yeah , i guess you missed the part where they blew it all on trips and bonuses for the ceo's and execs. And yeah, cash for clunkers? the auto bailout did so very well that obama had to initiate cash for clunkers.  please....... stop letting the wool get pulled over your eyes. and stop with  the bush nonsense. bush is gone, and has nothing to do with any of the trillions (that we dont have) that obama is spending. the bailout saved nothing.  try to tell that to the millions of people still out of work, and i guarantee you won't be able to walk the street.

 

Seriously, I lost two jobs in 2009, one because the company failed and the other because it's about to fail.  Nobody is hiring because business is bad for everyone.  People don't have extra money to get medical care for their pets, they are too busy trying to put food on the table and keep a roof over their heads.  Nice change.

[dolphantom]

Your second post makes no sense. Is that supposed to be opinion? Fact? Are you a teabagger?

all of the above.
now its your turn to explain. why does this make no sense? is this your opinion? fact?
 i voted for this man, and he , in turn ,  has showed me nothing  except gross overspending ,back room deals, and a ruthless desire to get what HE  wants. he steps and fetches  to our enemies, showing them weakness , by telling them that WE , as a nation, are arrogant? what leader does this?  he wants to use peace and diplomacy with countries that want us all dead at any cost. and at the same time wants to reward the  illegal immigrants,and lazy parasites of this country with free healthcare....
i am  for neither party. i simple vote for the man, not the party. whoever is best for my country , i will choose. unfortunately , there are alot of people  out there who simply vote for party, or race.

[bsfins]

flame away? Thats what happening to our prez one year in. oh , how the mighty have fallen.........

now you tell me........ what did AIG do with the money given to them again?? oh yeah , i guess you missed the part where they blew it all on trips and bonuses for the ceo's and execs. And yeah, cash for clunkers? the auto bailout did so very well that obama had to initiate cash for clunkers.  please....... stop letting the wool get pulled over your eyes. and stop with  the bush nonsense. bush is gone, and has nothing to do with any of the trillions (that we dont have) that obama is spending. the bailout saved nothing. try to tell that to the millions of people still out of work, and i guarantee you won't be able to walk the street.

 so , i'll say it again.......no country has ever spent themselves into prosperity.

Boy I hate Politics....
You need to go reread history...go read about the 1929 crash, or the 9 months before the crash....and how we recovered from the crash....

Ok, I'm done have fun....

[bsmooth]

flame away? Thats what happening to our prez one year in. oh , how the mighty have fallen.........

now you tell me........ what did AIG do with the money given to them again?? oh yeah , i guess you missed the part where they blew it all on trips and bonuses for the ceo's and execs. And yeah, cash for clunkers? the auto bailout did so very well that obama had to initiate cash for clunkers.  please....... stop letting the wool get pulled over your eyes. and stop with  the bush nonsense. bush is gone, and has nothing to do with any of the trillions (that we dont have) that obama is spending. the bailout saved nothing. try to tell that to the millions of people still out of work, and i guarantee you won't be able to walk the street.

 so , i'll say it again.......no country has ever spent themselves into prosperity.

The bailout along with the tax breaks, housing market implosion, and a two front war all came about under Bush's watch which Obama inheireted.
The stimulus package happened mostly under Obama's  watch.
So most of the stuff you are rambling about was not enacted by Obama, so once again I ask you what has he done in the last year that is worse than the bills, and policies that were enacted unde on Bush's watch?
Health care, cap and trade are for the most part dead right now until after the mid term elections, so you can stop rambling against them.

[Buddhagirl]

all of the above.
now its your turn to explain. why does this make no sense? is this your opinion? fact?
 i voted for this man, and he , in turn ,  has showed me nothing  except gross overspending ,back room deals, and a ruthless desire to get what HE  wants. he steps and fetches  to our enemies, showing them weakness , by telling them that WE , as a nation, are arrogant? what leader does this?  he wants to use peace and diplomacy with countries that want us all dead at any cost. and at the same time wants to reward the  illegal immigrants,and lazy parasites of this country with free healthcare....
i am  for neither party. i simple vote for the man, not the party. whoever is best for my country , i will choose. unfortunately , there are alot of people  out there who simply vote for party, or race.

You being a teabagger is all I needed to know. It makes no sense because it was all speculation and there were no facts to back anything up. There were hints of that whole "socialist" fear in there. It's not rational.  This discussion is not worth my time.

[Denver_Bronco]

Obama = epic fail.

[Dave Gray]

I think that Obama has done a good job, for the most part.

The worst of the economic problems are over.  I think that while the bailouts are unpopular, that they were needed.  Without them, I feel that we'd be in a worse position than we are.  It's Keynesian economics...not something Obama made up.  You pump taxpayer money into the economy, with the idea that the economy will grow enough to pay the taxpayers back.  Otherwise, you don't spend the money, but the economy as a whole falls further, and everyone loses their money anyway.

To say that the things Obama did this year are in any way responsible for where we are is a completely ludicrous statement.  The bailouts (which were under Bush, anyway) may very well be a horrible decision, but we won't see that for several years.

This kneejerk reaction to Obama, based on the current economy (whether good or bad) just doesn't make any sense.  The economic climate isn't something where change is made and you see it the next day.  It's something that you'll have to judge in a decade.

[dolphantom]

The bailout along with the tax breaks, housing market implosion, and a two front war all came about under Bush's watch which Obama inheireted.
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which , in turn was a result of events that bush inherited from the clinton administration, and its failures to follow up on events that they turned a blind eye to.

housing market implosion-- a result of clinton's fair housing act, giving every poor slob with no credit a loan. and giving every wannabe big shot a 800, 000 loan for homes they cant afford

two front war---- coming from clintons blatant refusal to act on early warning signs of terrorist threats. bush wound up fighting the war clinton caused