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[CF DolFan]

I think the biggest thing with the stimulus bill is where the money went.  Most people feel most of the money spent has been wasted.  Sure a few big companies/banks profitted from it and for good reasons, but the perception is that most of it wasted to help out friends. Where the money was spent is directly associated with Obama.

Had the lower end seen results form it it would be much different today. No one cares if the banks are still open if they won't work with us to get through the tough times too. In fact I find it ironic that taxpayers helped bail out Chrysler yet they just recently sued our High School  over their Rams logo. It was too similar. I guess they were worried the High School might start making cars or something.  Anyway now after years of having it we can use more taxpayer money to change the logo on everything so that it doesn't offend.

This seems pretty much on par with  how the rest of the country feels. We help the rich companies and they can't wait to screw us. Right or wrong Obama gets the blame because he is the one helping them without trickling down.  It's kind of  funny because it comes off looking just like what the democrats preach against.

I'm not saying that is what is happening but that is how I believe it is being perceived. 

[bsmooth]

I think the biggest thing with the stimulus bill is where the money went.  Most people feel most of the money spent has been wasted.  Sure a few big companies/banks profitted from it and for good reasons, but the perception is that most of it wasted to help out friends. Where the money was spent is directly associated with Obama.

Had the lower end seen results form it it would be much different today. No one cares if the banks are still open if they won't work with us to get through the tough times too. In fact I find it ironic that taxpayers helped bail out Chrysler yet they just recently sued our High School  over their Rams logo. It was too similar. I guess they were worried the High School might start making cars or something.  Anyway now after years of having it we can use more taxpayer money to change the logo on everything so that it doesn't offend.

This seems pretty much on par with  how the rest of the country feels. We help the rich companies and they can't wait to screw us. Right or wrong Obama gets the blame because he is the one helping them without trickling down.  It's kind of  funny because it comes off looking just like what the democrats preach against.

I'm not saying that is what is happening but that is how I believe it is being perceived. 

I agree that the perception of greed and corruption is hurting Obama and this plan. The zip code mistakes did not help either.
I give the spin doctors on Fox credit as they have collectively moved the TARP out of peoples minds and made it all Obamas fault.

[dolphantom]

You show me disrespect by calling me sweetie. You don't know me. Don't call me sweetie. It's degrading and an insult.

oh , get over yourself.  whats wrong with you anyway?   here i am trying to be civil ,and polite, and you take it as a personal  insult ? i say i apologize , if i insulted you , i say  i respect you , and your opinion , and this is your response?  i see people saying worse things on this board, than the term "sweetie" . (which was meant in the politest form) i think i'm the one who should be insulted. so much for being nice.

[dolphantom]

Which events were those?  The Bush administration's blatant dismissal of the militant Islamic threat prior to 9/11?  Seems like Clinton handled his terrorist problem ('93 WTC) without turning it into an excuse for an enormous power grab and an invasion of a completely unrelated nation.
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which events were those? got a pen and a few hours?

List of terrorist attacks under Clinton's watch.
Oct. 12, 2000 - A terrorist bomb damages the destroyer USS Cole in the port of Aden, Yemen, killing 17 sailors and injuring 39.

Aug. 7, 1998 - Terrorist bombs destroy the U.S. embassies in Nairobi, Kenya and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania. In Nairobi, 12 Americans are among the 291 killed, and over 5,000 are wounded, including 6 Americans. In Dar es Salaam, one U.S. citizen is wounded among the 10 killed and 77 injured.

June 21, 1998 - Rocket-propelled grenades explode near the U.S. embassy in Beirut.

July 27, 1996 - A pipe bomb explodes during the Olympic games in Atlanta, killing one person and wounding 111.

June 25, 1996 - A bomb aboard a fuel truck explodes outside a U.S. air force installation in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia. 19 U.S. military personnel are killed in the Khubar Towers housing facility, and 515 are wounded, including 240 Americans.


Nov. 13, 1995 - A car-bomb in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia kills seven people, five of them American military and civilian advisers for National Guard training. The "Tigers of the Gulf," "Islamist Movement for Change," and "Fighting Advocates of God" claim responsibility.


April 19, 1995 - A car bomb destroys the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City, killing 168 people and wounding over 600. guess you dont have to be foreign to be a terrorist.

February 1993 - A bomb in a van explodes in the underground parking garage in New York's World Trade Center, killing six people and wounding 1,042.

and how did our hero , clinton handle it? by getting blown in the oval office. yep! that scared the shit out of those terrorists , boy!

list of terrorist attacks under bush's watch after inheriting 9/11?   
  0.

[StL FinFan]

oh , get over yourself.  whats wrong with you anyway?   here i am trying to be civil ,and polite, and you take it as a personal  insult ? i say i apologize , if i insulted you , i say  i respect you , and your opinion , and this is your response?  i see people saying worse things on this board, than the term "sweetie" . (which was meant in the politest form) i think i'm the one who should be insulted. so much for being nice.

I would have been insulted if that were directed towards me.  It would be like someone calling you "boy" or something similar.

[dolphantom]

I would have been insulted if that were directed towards me.  It would be like someone calling you "boy" or something similar.

give me a break. do you realize how silly that sounds? all i ever say on here is how i respect everone and thier opinion. why would anyone take that as an insult? come on now. you people are killing me.

my supposed "insulting" quote :

"^^^^^sweetie, i'm not arguing . and i certainly mean no disrespect to you or anyone on this board. nor do intend to insult anyone. so , my apologies if i did. i simply post my opinion and i say  it with the utmost respect of your, and everyone elses opinion ."


 how does that decipher into an insult? anyone?    nutty people.... i swear.

[Buddhagirl]

give me a break. do you realize how silly that sounds? all i ever say on here is how i respect everone and thier opinion. why would anyone take that as an insult? come on now. you people are killing me.

my supposed "insulting" quote :

"^^^^^sweetie, i'm not arguing . and i certainly mean no disrespect to you or anyone on this board. nor do intend to insult anyone. so , my apologies if i did. i simply post my opinion and i say  it with the utmost respect of your, and everyone elses opinion ."


 how does that decipher into an insult? anyone?    nutty people.... i swear.

The term "sweetie" when used by men that don't aren't familiar with a woman is way to put a woman in their place. It downplays a woman's power and reduces her to something cutesy. Just las StL FinFan said it's the same as calling someone "boy".  When Obama called a reporter sweetie everyone was up in arms and called him to task as they should have. He called and appologized for calling her sweetie. Apparently, you missed that.

As I stated earlier, you don't know me. I'm not your "sweetie" nor anyone elses. You want to be nice? Call my by my freaking name.

[dolphantom]

  You want to be nice? Call my by my freaking name.

not anymore "sweetie". youre twisted, and i'm done being nice.  you see where that got me . been there , done that. no .....how about ...GO FUCK YOURSELF!

[Buddhagirl]

not anymore "sweetie". youre twisted, and i'm done being nice.  you see where that got me . been there , done that. no .....how about ...GO FUCK YOURSELF!

Yes. I'm twisted because I prefer to be called by my name and not deratory put downs used by men for years to put women in their place.

And now I rest my case on why I don't deal with teabaggers.

[bsmooth]

which events were those? got a pen and a few hours?

List of terrorist attacks under Clinton's watch.
Oct. 12, 2000 - A terrorist bomb damages the destroyer USS Cole in the port of Aden, Yemen, killing 17 sailors and injuring 39.

Aug. 7, 1998 - Terrorist bombs destroy the U.S. embassies in Nairobi, Kenya and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania. In Nairobi, 12 Americans are among the 291 killed, and over 5,000 are wounded, including 6 Americans. In Dar es Salaam, one U.S. citizen is wounded among the 10 killed and 77 injured.

June 21, 1998 - Rocket-propelled grenades explode near the U.S. embassy in Beirut.

July 27, 1996 - A pipe bomb explodes during the Olympic games in Atlanta, killing one person and wounding 111.

June 25, 1996 - A bomb aboard a fuel truck explodes outside a U.S. air force installation in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia. 19 U.S. military personnel are killed in the Khubar Towers housing facility, and 515 are wounded, including 240 Americans.


Nov. 13, 1995 - A car-bomb in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia kills seven people, five of them American military and civilian advisers for National Guard training. The "Tigers of the Gulf," "Islamist Movement for Change," and "Fighting Advocates of God" claim responsibility.


April 19, 1995 - A car bomb destroys the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City, killing 168 people and wounding over 600. guess you dont have to be foreign to be a terrorist.

February 1993 - A bomb in a van explodes in the underground parking garage in New York's World Trade Center, killing six people and wounding 1,042.

and how did our hero , clinton handle it? by getting blown in the oval office. yep! that scared the shit out of those terrorists , boy!

list of terrorist attacks under bush's watch after inheriting 9/11?   
  0.

You are once again avoiding the question. You stated that Obama has made this country worse in one year than Bush did in eight.So I will ask you again, what specific legislation has Obama sponsored and gotten through that has eroded our rights or actually made the economic crisis worse or is worse than what Bush pushed through.

[dolphantom]

Yes. I'm twisted because I prefer to be called by my name and not deratory put downs used by men for years to put women in their place.

And now I rest my case on why I don't deal with teabaggers.

no , youre just plain twisted. the proof is in the posts. i was trying to be nice. you wouldnt let it happen. you always have a  nasty, snide, condescending remark.  so who's wrong here? there was no good reason for any of your remarks , other than to be bitter and hateful. so dont give me  any of this teabagger shit.

[dolphantom]

You are once again avoiding the question. You stated that Obama has made this country worse in one year than Bush did in eight.So I will ask you again, what specific legislation has Obama sponsored and gotten through that has eroded our rights or actually made the economic crisis worse or is worse than what Bush pushed through.

my answer you quoted was a response to  spider dan's post, which read "which events were those?". pertaining to clintons blind eye.towards terrorism. i believe i anwered the question

[bsmooth]

my answer you quoted was a response to  spider dan's post, which read "which events were those?". pertaining to clintons blind eye.towards terrorism. i believe i anwered the question

No. When I asked it became a diatribe against Obama and a list of things the Clinton did or did not do.
You have emphatically stated that Obama's single year in office has hurt this country more than Bush's eight. All I am asking is what has Obama and only Obama done to damage this country so badly in your opinion. So evidence would be great too.

[bsfins]

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