Most Overrated Dolphins Player

[ethurst22a]

Since we're doing a lot of retro-spective thinking on this site, I would like to see who are the most overrated Dolphins (historically).

My vote goes to Bryan Cox with Tony Martin as my runner up.

Cox started off with a bang at outside linebacker. At that position, he had 14 1/2 sacks and led the Dolphins on defense to the 1992 AFC Championship.

But for some reason, Cox moved to middle linebacker and the results were mixed.

Cox had the loudest mouth and at times, he had a hard time backing it up (especially against the Bills). He complained more about stadium security instead of tackling Thurman Thomas. In my opinion, Cox is not even in the top five of Dolphin linebackers.

Cox became nothing more than a journeyman linebacker who was exposed for his lack of abilities. Joey Porter is a descendant and pupil of "Brian Cox's School of Discontent." Thank God he left in FA in 96 and we drafted Zach Thomas.

My runner up is Tony Martin. The Dolphins went through pleading with corrupt judges at the Miami-Dade County Courthouse to keep him from going to jail thinking that he was the answer at wide receiver. His first stint with Miami was marginal then he went to San Diego, had one good year and to Atlanta one good year. By the time the Dolphins brought him back to Miami, he was running on fumes. He eeked out a 1,000 season but other than that, nothing special.

[ToticoLicker]

^^^^^^

They only moved him to middle LB in 1994 because they had no one else to play the position.  John Offerdahl suddenly and abruptly retired, and Chuck Bullough suffered an ab strain. 

[Kirbyjr]

I am going to get alot of shit for this, but I have to say Ronnie Brown.  This guy was was picked #2 and susposed to be a franchise, game changing RB.  5 years later we have a guy who has BARLEY rushed for 1000 yds once for his career, and has spent alot of his career on the injury report.  Yes, he has been very successful out of the Wildcat, but if we did'nt have this offensive scheme he would'nt have close to the 33 TD's he has been able to rack up.

[Spider-Dan]

Ronnie Brown is largely responsible for executing an offensive scheme that many/most of the other teams in the league have tried to copy, and I daresay he's the best in the league at running it.  That qualifies as "game-changing" in my book.

As for my pick, I'd have to say Chris Chambers.  He always seemed to be considered a legitimate #1 (even when his performance didn't warrant it) and, even until the end, there was never the kind of "We need to get a true #1 receiver because Chambers just won't cut it" talk that Ginn has faced since he arrived*.

*this is not to imply that Ginn hasn't deserved it

[Thundergod]

I am going to get alot of shit for this, but I have to say Ronnie Brown.  This guy was was picked #2 and susposed to be a franchise, game changing RB.  5 years later we have a guy who has BARLEY rushed for 1000 yds once for his career, and has spent alot of his career on the injury report.  Yes, he has been very successful out of the Wildcat, but if we did'nt have this offensive scheme he would'nt have close to the 33 TD's he has been able to rack up.

Not from me. Totally agree.

[Defense54]

Not Ginn. I think everyone agrees he is as average as can be.

My guess is Crowder. I know its hard to follow a guy like Zach Thomas but this guy tackles like an 11 yr old girlscout.

[Philly Fin Fan]

Not by us as fans, but Jay Fiedler was vastly over-rated by Wannstedt. Think about it- that lead to so many years of mediocrity.

[Defense54]

Not by us as fans, but Jay Fiedler was vastly over-rated by Wannstedt. Think about it- that lead to so many years of mediocrity.

He had a decent QB rating. Not a Hall of famer , but with a better supporting cast he was certainly a servicable QB. Very intelligent and I thought he had heart.  He got slammed because he was given the job out the gate over the back up for Marino, Huard .Especially since Marino publically gave him the job (almost).

[jtex316]

There are really a LOT of overrated Dolphins Players. I'll just name a few:

Oronde Gadsden - This guy was supposed to be THE MAN to revolutionize the Miami passing offense. He turned out to have 2 sports center highlight plays and that was all.

OJ McDuffie - I remember in middle school reading in a newspaper about how OJ was the savior of the dolphins vertical attack. He turned out to suck and be a special teams guy.

Chris Chambers - See Oronde Gadsden comments

Ronnie Brown - Someone else already said it very well.

Bob Griese - What did he ever really do in the NFL? He threw double-digit interceptions in 10 of his 14 seasons, he only had 1 season in the NFL with a QB rating of over 90, and had a career QB rating of 77.1. 172 Ints to 192 TDs and a mere 25,000+ passing yards. He never threw for 2,500 yards or more in a season. And, he was injured and only played 5+ games in the 1972 miracle season. The next season, which he played in 13 games, he only threw for 1,422 yards and completed 53.2% of his passes. How do you only throw for 1,422 yards in a season - even if it's a 14-game season?

Somehow, Bob Griese is in the hall-of-fame. Can anyone say "Trent Dilfer"?

[Tepop84]

It is obviously ronnie brown, the guy sucks and idiot dolphin fans will argue that he is a top 5 nfl back.

[Tenshot13]

It is obviously ronnie brown, the guy sucks and idiot dolphin fans will argue that he is a top 5 nfl back.

surprise surprise!  Tepop picks Ronnie Brown.  Although idiot is a pretty harsh word, I would have to agree that you are kidding yourself to say he's a top five RB.  I would have to go with T-Buck.  He got a lot of INTs, but he gave up the big play all the time.

[ToticoLicker]

It is obviously ronnie brown, the guy sucks and idiot dolphin fans will argue that he is a top 5 nfl back.

Que de pinga!!!

[JVides]

It is obviously ronnie brown, the guy sucks and idiot dolphin fans will argue that he is a top 5 nfl back.

I'll counter with Ricky Williams.  He gives Miami one absolutely monstrous year, falls off the next year, then proceeds to rip the team's guts out with his "retirement".

Saints management traded their entire draft for him (outrageously over-rated him), Dolphins management thought he was worth 2 # 1 picks (over-rated him)
Fans over-rated him so much that even now, some *ahem* fans won't get off his jock like he's still even a top 15 back.  The amount of "hallelujah" cries that accompanied his return to the Dolphins outnumbered those heard on Sunday mornings at southern churches.  And all this for a backup running back.

[Tepop84]

I'll counter with Ricky Williams.  He gives Miami one absolutely monstrous year, falls off the next year, then proceeds to rip the team's guts out with his "retirement".

Saints management traded their entire draft for him (outrageously over-rated him), Dolphins management thought he was worth 2 # 1 picks (over-rated him)
Fans over-rated him so much that even now, some *ahem* fans won't get off his jock like he's still even a top 15 back.  The amount of "hallelujah" cries that accompanied his return to the Dolphins outnumbered those heard on Sunday mornings at southern churches.  And all this for a backup running back.

considering that he was 8th in DYAR even having to split with pussy pants brown for half the year, you would have to be pretty ignorant to think he was outside the top 15.

[fyo]

considering that he was 8th in DYAR even having to split with pussy pants brown for half the year, you would have to be pretty ignorant to think he was outside the top 15.

I just love it when you selectively quote statistics. Look at the "per play" statistic of the same site (footballoutsiders.com) and you'll see that RONNIE BROWN was the 8th most valuable back, whereas your boy RICKY WILLIAMS slides to 14th. (Pretty much exactly a reversal of their DYAR rankings).