Incognito threads

[Defense54]

I'm all for this:

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/fl-dolphins-incognito-visit-0315-20100314,0,398645.story?track=rss

Our Oline and Dline needs a Huge dose of attitude. Its worth a penalty or two if it causes a few players to flinch all through the game. The prima donna positions (QB, Receiver, RB) need to STFU. But in the trenches they need to be angry , intimidating , and most of all RESPECTED. I could care less how much he pays out. Thats his problem. Lets hope we can lure him in........

[ethurst22a]

I'm all for this:

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/fl-dolphins-incognito-visit-0315-20100314,0,398645.story?track=rss

Our Oline and Dline needs a Huge dose of attitude. Its worth a penalty or two if it causes a few players to flinch all through the game. The prima donna positions (QB, Receiver, RB) need to STFU. But in the trenches they need to be angry , intimidating , and most of all RESPECTED. I could care less how much he pays out. Thats his problem. Lets hope we can lure him in........

Okay D5499, I agree with you.

But Incognito is a SERIOUS head case. He makes Brandon Marshall look like a choir boy with his college and pro antics.

The Dolphins need to swing a deal for Marshall. That would leave one hole for the offense which is at TE unless Kory Sperry shows something in camp. I'm not enamored with Fasano.

Parcells can probably deal with Incognito but not Marshall?

The Dolphins already have the 150 million dollar line. They need a receiver.

[StL FinFan]

Um...let me think...NO!!!

[Spider-Dan]

Incognito is one of the most penalized players in the league.

Thanks for the offer, but I'll have to pass.

[Defense54]

He may be Nuts .......but in that good (name your favorite football flick) kind of way. he's like that character that Forest Whitaker (as Charles Jefferson ) played in Fast Times at Ridgemount high. He's not a cancer in the Lockeroom. Working and training is never a problem.  He's a fucking Lightening Rod for the rest of the team. I want that kind of attitude and complete disrespect for the opposing team. Thats the edge we have been missing. Nice guys finish last in this league. 

[MaineDolFan]

Incognito is one of the most penalized players in the league.

Thanks for the offer, but I'll have to pass.

Exactly.

This offense can't afford to take on 15 yard unsportsmanlike penalties. 

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

I would rather have "attitude" on defense than offense.   

[Defense54]

Exactly.

This offense can't afford to take on 15 yard unsportsmanlike penalties. 

If anyone can control this guy its Parcells. And even if we get a 15 yarder here or there, if he can get us some time to chuck a few 15 yarders as well I'm all for it. Holding penalties drive me Nuts. Knocking someone on their ass penalties is worth the price IMO for the dividends it pays off in attitude. can you imagine Ginn stepping out of bounds instead of taking a hit while this guy is around?

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

If anyone can control this guy its Parcells. And even if we get a 15 yarder here or there, if he can get us some time to chuck a few 15 yarders as well I'm all for it. Holding penalties drive me Nuts. Knocking someone on their ass penalties is worth the price IMO for the dividends it pays off in attitude. can you imagine Ginn stepping out of bounds instead of taking a hit while this guy is around?

I don't see how this would change Ginn.  Is Incognito gonna get into Ginn's face?  Beat him up?  Tackle during practice? Yeah, that is really gonna build team chemistry.  Particularly if Ginn stepped out of bounds instead of turning down field on a 3-long situation setup by a penalty caused by Incognito. 

Nor is Incognito going to intimidated anyone.  Defensive players hit and like to be hit.  It is offensive players such as QBs or WRs that can be rattled.  Richie isn't gonna scare a defensive lineman.  A hard hitting defensive player that will make a QB hesitate or WR run out of bounds might be worth a penalty now and then.  But not on offense. 

[Defense54]

of course he's not gonna beat Ginn up. But I think a guy like him who just defended that pass Rush might say on the bench......WTF? You could have made that first down!? Don't cut and run! I think a guy like him can effect the entire Offense. I can count on both hands were Ricky and Ronnie were "this" close to breaking one if only for 1 more block.

[MaineDolFan]

I say sign him on the strength of his name.  I can see the headlines now:

Offensive line goes Incognito, Henne sacked 13 times.

[Spider-Dan]

of course he's not gonna beat Ginn up. But I think a guy like him who just defended that pass Rush might say on the bench......WTF? You could have made that first down!? Don't cut and run! I think a guy like him can effect the entire Offense. I can count on both hands were Ricky and Ronnie were "this" close to breaking one if only for 1 more block.

You are mistaking "good offensive lineman" for "dirty offensive lineman."

If Incognito were actually good, then yes, we could talk about Ronnie or Ricky getting "one more block."  But for Incognito, it would be more likely that Ronnie/Ricky gets free because of a hold or chop block or leg whip, and then the play gets called back (this is why he's one of the most penalized players in the league; he's not smart enough to be able to get away with it).

Signing a dirty player to send a message is one thing.  Signing an incompetent dirty player (who gets caught all the time) is pointless.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

BTW on just want to go on records as saying I hope the Dolphins sign him.  Should be fun watching Henne dealing with 3 and 25 on a regular basis. 

[Defense54]

Talent isn't the issue with Incognito. The only thing holding him back, it seems, is his temper.

"There is the 90 to 95 percent of Richie that is outstanding," Rams GM Billy Devaney said last season. "It's the other 5 or 10 [percent] when the dark Richie kicks in and it becomes a problem."

No doubt his temper has hurt him. Besides his fines he only made just over $1 million.  If he can be signed cheap, at 26 yrs old I think his upside is well worth his badside. He's got to be tired of the fines and paultry signing bonus's compared to those around him.

[StL FinFan]

Incognito got kicked off the worst team in the league.  If that does not speak volumes about his character, or lack thereof, I don't know what does.  He is a punk.  He fought with his coaches, his team, and his fans.  He will not change.  You guys are nuts.