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« Reply #45 on: April 11, 2010, 02:43:07 pm »

It's business on both sides.  The Dolphins are not sure if they want to re-sign him.  He is looking at his options.  I am sure he wants to try to win a ring before he retires.  It should not be taken personally from either side.


With all the trash JT has talked about the Jets, I would be curious to see what kind of reception he would get should he sign with them.
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« Reply #46 on: April 11, 2010, 04:36:51 pm »

^^It's part of the NFL, don't like it don't sign the contract....It's all in the CBA....Well the old one...

The contract says you can skip ALL of the voluntary workouts.  Yet you have many teams (and fans) that make a big stink if you miss any of them. 
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« Reply #47 on: April 12, 2010, 01:50:49 pm »

Voluntary workouts are not voluntary.  They're not contractually obligated, but missing them means bad things for you -- getting benched, cut, etc.

It's like when your wife says "I don't care if you go out."  Sometimes it's a trick.
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« Reply #48 on: April 12, 2010, 01:56:25 pm »

Voluntary workouts are not voluntary.  They're not contractually obligated, but missing them means bad things for you -- getting benched, cut, etc.

It's like when your wife says "I don't care if you go out."  Sometimes it's a trick.

That doesn't make them involuntary though. It just mean you may face being ostracized.
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« Reply #49 on: April 12, 2010, 04:09:18 pm »

But don't get all pissy at the team for the way they're handling the Jason Taylor situation.  They made it very clear that they are focusing on the draft, as they should be right now.  If he wanted to come back so badly, he'd be patient and the DAY after the draft march into Ireland's office and force them to talk.

In the end, I still think he's using the Jets to force the Dolphins to talk to him, and its a selfish asshole move on his part, IMO.  Good of the team, JT....  The draft is more important than you right now.

This would all be great if he were 29 and asking for 6 years and $80 Mil.  He's not.  His market is $1.5 to $2.5 M per year.  That is nothing in the salary cap era.  Why should the Dolphins be yanking him around if all he wants is $2 M per year?  It doesn't cost them almost anything to sign him up right now and keep him away from the Jets who, if nobody's noticed, are stockpiling assets right and left.  WHY let a guy who will automatically be the NYJ's best pass rusher get away when all you need to do is offer a paltry 2 year, $4 M deal to keep him?

This doesn't take brain power away from the draft, mind you.  You don't need cap guys helping the scouts figure out whom to draft.  The signing of Jason Taylor could be handled independently of draft preparations.  They ARE yanking him around, and I AM pissy about it.  You will be, too, if he signs up there for cheap and gets 10 sacks.  Believe me, you'll be howling.
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« Reply #50 on: April 12, 2010, 04:29:16 pm »

I agree - i don't understand why they don't just sign him.  What do they have to lose?  But I am addressing the people saying "poor Jason, he wants to come back and Parcells won't let him"
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« Reply #51 on: April 12, 2010, 06:33:32 pm »

salguero is pretty funny...

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/2010/04/tony-sparano-to-meet-with-jason-taylor.html

got to think that really both parties boxed themselves into a tight space without much wiggle room. looks like the dolphins have finally come to their senses and are going to try and work something out so they both can save face.

taylor will be playing for the dolphins next year...
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« Reply #52 on: April 12, 2010, 09:18:37 pm »

Lets see, it cost 1 million dollars for the hideous Orange and Aqua carpet.

250,000 dollars in song residuals for Jimmy Buffett.

Another 250,000 for celebrity perks and up close shots of JLo's ass in Panavision.

Yes, I would say that Taylor is not asking for much.
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« Reply #53 on: April 12, 2010, 09:21:26 pm »

Lets see, it cost 1 million dollars for the hideous Orange and Aqua carpet.

250,000 dollars in song residuals for Jimmy Buffett.

Another 250,000 for celebrity perks and up close shots of JLo's ass in Panavision.

Yes, I would say that Taylor is not asking for much.

An orange carpet and the other stuff you mention doesn't go against the cap.
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« Reply #54 on: April 13, 2010, 05:16:42 am »

An orange carpet and the other stuff you mention doesn't go against the cap.

What cap?
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« Reply #55 on: April 13, 2010, 11:15:27 am »

What cap?

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« Reply #56 on: April 13, 2010, 01:52:18 pm »

What cap?

It's just this year, no?
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« Reply #57 on: April 13, 2010, 02:08:11 pm »

It's just this year, no?

JT isn't looking for an 8 year $60 million dollar deal.  He is looking for a 2 year deal.  And if they cut him during this year's league year (like was attempted with Porter) 100% of his cap hit would be during a non-cap year. 

Cap issues are non-existent.  The question is he worth one of the 53 roster spots.  Dolphins seem to be saying no, or we won't decide until after the draft.  Jets might take him before that. 
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« Reply #58 on: April 15, 2010, 02:41:56 pm »

with the signing of marshall, they have to now get jt signed asap, no?

its just so freaking strange... go all in with your chips on marshall, then you pass on a player you can most certainly use at a glaring hole you need to fill. i don't get it...

they now have two less very high draft picks to use to fill a whole bunch of defensive holes. freaking sign jt so at least you don't have to worry about finding a pass rusher immediately.
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« Reply #59 on: April 15, 2010, 03:31:12 pm »

with the signing of marshall, they have to now get jt signed asap, no?

its just so freaking strange... go all in with your chips on marshall, then you pass on a player you can most certainly use at a glaring hole you need to fill. i don't get it...

they now have two less very high draft picks to use to fill a whole bunch of defensive holes. freaking sign jt so at least you don't have to worry about finding a pass rusher immediately.

I actually thought about this and in my mind there is actually something to be taken from the situation.  If they don't go after JT soon, I think we can deduct that they are eyeballing an OLB for our first rounder. 

Here is why...  It is hard to expect that anything below a 2nd rounder could contribute immediately (it happens but it isn't common).  Now we have lost our 2nd rounder so that means we have one shot (with confidence) that we will get a first year contributor from the draft.  Therefore, it would be unwise to wait on JT if they think they will take anything other than an OLB in the 1st round.  If they don't go get JT and don't draft an OLB 1st round, then that tells me they don't think highly of JT at that position in which case it wouldn't make much sense to string the face of a franchise along.
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