Brandon Marshall Traded to Dolphins

[Doc-phin]

I heard the news of Marshall's trade this morning at 5AM Mountain Time. I kept checking to see if the Denver Post had anything on the trade (makes sense since Denver was involved) and nothing showed up on their web-site until after 3:00PM MST.

I was in downtown Denver today and those who knew about the trade are really incensed!

I kept saying that Marshall was not a bad guy after all. A couple of incidents and the press painted him as a malcontent. I've said this before...Marshall wanted out of Denver because of the Darrent Williams incident. That bullet was intended for Marshall not because of what he'd done but his bone head cousin who escalated the incident. It messed with him a great deal which caused some erratic behavior. Everyone from Bowlen to Shanahan to Marshall was affected by what happened to Williams . No sportswriter has mentioned thatf Marshall's behavior was at
Wiiliams death. At the same time, his contract became an issue and his relationship was rocky. This could drive any man in any profession INSANE.

This is why I dislike beat writers. Many beat writers go on what they colleagues say. Players know this so they try to avoid the beat writer because that could lead to some heat between the beat writer who has to sell papers and the players. Look at what happened to Vontae Davis. There was nothing wrong with his attitude.

The Dolphins HAD to make this move and many of the local sport writers are prejudging Marshall and he's not in South Florida yet.

I hope that he proves everybody wrong that says he is a trouble maker. Teammates liked him but the new regime didn't. McDaniels is not going to last long in Denver running players off. I hope Parcells consistently challenges Marshall to be a leader.

Christmas has come early for the Miami Dolphins.

I really wasn't wanting to post this because it doesn't offer a contradicting view, but it seems like something you should consider watching before you talk too much like this.

Brandan Marshalls Checkered Past...

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/sfl-brandon-marshall-espn-video-10,0,2784995.htmlstory

Keep in mind, I don't back the word of just one party and I can see a lot of reasons for false information to come out of this.  However, I don't feel it should outright be ignored either.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

^^^As far as responses go, noting a couple of isolated instances as support for your "almost every player" blanket isn't really much support at all.

Pretty much every FF magazine discusses this phenomena, I am shocked you are unaware of it.  

[Sunstroke]

I've written for enough FF publications over the years (ESPN FFL, DraftSharks.com MVPWeeklyReport.com, others) to understand fully that those writers are as likely to generalize and throw a blanket across things as anyone. All you really need to have in order to write for an FF mag are a keyboard, an opinion, and a fair-to-middling grasp of the English language.

Saying "pretty much all the FF mags discuss this..." isn't really decent support either. I was hoping you could provide something concrete to validate the point, but I see now that all you're going to do in way of response is make assumptions and point to unverifiable and obscure references.

Please send Brandon Marshall a private message to apologize for your blanket goofiness and we'll call it a day.

[Tepop84]

I really wasn't wanting to post this because it doesn't offer a contradicting view, but it seems like something you should consider watching before you talk too much like this.

Brandan Marshalls Checkered Past...

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/sfl-brandon-marshall-espn-video-10,0,2784995.htmlstory

Keep in mind, I don't back the word of just one party and I can see a lot of reasons for false information to come out of this.  However, I don't feel it should outright be ignored either.

Just seems like a crazy ex. bitches be lying.

[Doc-phin]

Just seems like a crazy ex. bitches be lying.

I hear you man, but you have to admit she seemed like she was more than just an actress for those 911 calls.  Did she overstate things, possibly.  Best person to ask would be that cab driver, good luck finding him.

[Diehard_Dolfan]

This is also a response to Sunstroke.

2007 Moss had a one year deal.  Broke Rice's record.  Went to the pro-bowl. 

Signed a multiyear deal.  2008 and 2009 he caught appx. the same number of TD over a two year span as he had in one year.  And while he didn't come close to returning to his Oakland ways there have been news of him not working as hard in 2008 or 2009 as he did in 2007. 

Patriots took a risk on Randy Moss.  One that paid off well. 

But the risk only included a single 4th round draft pick and a one year contract. 

The Jets are taking a risk on Holmes.  But it too is only a one year deal at the cost of a 5th round pick.  We don't know how it will turn out, but if it blows up it will only hurt them for one year.

The Dolphins are taking a risk with Incongnito.  But it is a one year risk.  If it blows up it will only hurt the Dolphins for one year.

The Dolphins are taking a huge risk with Marshall, b/c if it doesn't work out it cost them 2 - 2nd round draft picks and will affect the salary cap until 2013. 

I would have been happy with Marshall on the Patriots...but not at this price tag.  The Dolphin's overpaid.  

Is it overpaying for a young proven WR with over 100+ catches in 3 of his 5yrs in the league?   Is it overpaying for one of the top 3 WR's in the game?   He's 26 and his YAC yards have increased each yr In the league.   The DB's that have lined up and played against him all admit he's the toughest WR to bring down once he catches the ball.  One DB even referred to him as a DE with the ball saying "Marshall looks to dish out punishment to anyone that tries to tackle him".

Hmmm maybe...  But I'm glad we took the risk!  If he plays at the same level he's played at for the next 5yrs even after all his problems in Denver... I'd say the Dolphins will benefit from it.

[ethurst22a]

I really wasn't wanting to post this because it doesn't offer a contradicting view, but it seems like something you should consider watching before you talk too much like this.

Brandan Marshalls Checkered Past...

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/sfl-brandon-marshall-espn-video-10,0,2784995.htmlstory

Keep in mind, I don't back the word of just one party and I can see a lot of reasons for false information to come out of this.  However, I don't feel it should outright be ignored either.

Consider this.

When Ricky Williams quit the Dolphins, the press painted Ricky as a weird person not capable of functioning and always being a pot head. Back then, you could not tell a Dolphin fan (especially on this board) that Ricky had some valid reasons for quitting:

1. Wannstedt was running him into the ground
2. That he cared about more than just football
3. He was trying to find his true self.

But that doesn't sell papers or tickets. No one cared about what was going with Williams, fans included. They just want him to run the ball 392 times a season and gain 1,800 yards.

No press person, beat writer or person from EPSN had never mentioned those three things. LeBatard touched on it briefly but for some strange reason, he didn't go all the way into the subject.

I know several Broncos and Nuggets out here which are not partitioned off like they are in Miami. So again, you don't know WHO I know or what I know so if I have an opinion, I'll state it. Fact is that if you were targeted to be killed and your teammate got it instead of you, no amount of money could make up for that. You would have psychological problems. It will affect EVERY area of your life.

I've been following other teams for years and the Broncos is one of those teams. Brandon Marshall is the best wide receiver to ever put on a Broncos uniform. Not Haven Moses, Steve Watson, Vance Johnson, Anthony Miller. Rod Smith is the benchmark but as a rookie, Marshall did some amazing stuff that Smith couldn't do.

But black athletes are expected to be dumb by the establishment and have no feelings and just go catch the damn ball. No room for the black athlete to have feelings or be affected by a tragedy. So basically, you have a majority "white" press establishment analyzing other cultures and not providing the real truth behind the behavior and you know that's true. Sports isn't excluded.

I live in Denver and you practically heard about this everyday. You haven't even read the transcripts of Marshalls' testimony so how can it be false information? This was HEADLINE NEWS out here in Colorado, strangely historic at that. When Marshall testified, it was almost a play by play account of what happened that night as he said it.

So maybe what you need to do is READ WHAT'S GOING ON IN ANOTHER REGION.

And even as far as domestic violence. If the cops get called, someone is going to jail. It's simple as that. Most of these women have a way of provoking men, especially the ones who have money to get their money. It's just like with Chris Henry and Big Ben. You're a target if you make a lot of money in America because of the country's fascination with excess materialism. Most women these days want money and security and a lot will do anything to get it. If they have to give up some a$$ then charge you with rape, they will do it in a minute and not even think about it.

I hope that Marshall does really well in Miami. Parcells has dealt with a lot of "problem" players and maybe he knows some positive truths about Marshall that the press and fans ignored with the exception of Marshall catching the ball and scoring touchdowns.

It's just sad that the average person can see that there's always more behind the scenes.

Anyway, the Dolphins got a steal. I hope that Marshall goes to five straight Pro Bowls and proves everyone wrong.

[Doc-phin]

Ethurst,

Don't misunderstand me, I never insinuated that Marshall was everything that piece insinuated.  However, the 911 calls were somewhat compelling and shouldn't be ignored.  I am not trying to stir up sentiment against him.  As long as none of this reoccurs, I see no reason to be anything but supportive of his addition to our team.

BTW, A close friend of mine is someone who I would consider to be an expert observer of the Broncos.  I talked to him about Marshall and he felt that many of the accusations and situations he put himself in were legitimate based on what he had seen.  He also felt fairly confident in saying that he believed that most of the immaturity issues were behind him and that he was an exceptional addition to our team.  He felt that the primary reason for the Broncos letting him go was to make a statement about nobody being bigger than the team.

[StL FinFan]

"Most women these days want money and security and a lot will do anything to get it. If they have to give up some a$$ then charge you with rape, they will do it in a minute and not even think about it."

WTF? Seriously dude, you need to get help for your women hating problem.

[Sunstroke]

^^^ Brandon sounds like someone who has been through that terrifying situation before.

Just curious, but have you ever had someone claim that you committed a crime that you actually didn't commit, just so that person could gain leverage over you?

I'd guess that most of us haven't...

[StL FinFan]

I don't know what happened, I was not there, but to say most  women are looking for easy money is laughable.  Some maybe, a few definitely, but not most .

[bsmooth]

I don't know what happened, I was not there, but to say most  women are looking for easy money is laughable.  Some maybe, a few definitely, but not most .

Most women and men want security both financial and emotional, and enough income to live comfortably without struggling, to say that this is not true is dishonest. Who here honestly looks for a mate who is a dirtbag loser with no motivation to work, pay for anything, provide the security they are looking for? No one.
Now gold diggers are a whole different breed entirely. Unfortunately the number of them has seemed to grown over the last 25 years or so, or they are just being reported about now.

[StL FinFan]

I re-quote ethurtst: "Most women these days want money and security and a lot will do anything to get it. If they have to give up some a$$ then charge you with rape, they will do it in a minute and not even think about it."

I have a problem with the use of the word "most" in this quote.  I don't have a problem with someone stating this particular woman in this particular incident is a gold digger, but I do have a problem with someone stating that most women are gold diggers.

[Diehard_Dolfan]

I re-quote ethurtst: "Most women these days want money and security and a lot will do anything to get it. If they have to give up some a$$ then charge you with rape, they will do it in a minute and not even think about it."

I have a problem with the use of the word "most" in this quote.  I don't have a problem with someone stating this particular woman in this particular incident is a gold digger, but I do have a problem with someone stating that most women are gold diggers.

I think you misread what he was trying to say...  Yes he says "MOST" but he's saying most want "money and security" he then says a lot will do anything not most or all.

[StL FinFan]

^ I think not.  He's posted many misogynistic things before.  I think some woman either took his money or left him for a guy with money, or both.