Revis skips start of camp....

[Spider-Dan]

There is a minimum number of games that a player has to play (the number 6 is what's coming to mind, though I'm not sure) in order for that season to count as fulfilled, for purposes of contract negotiations.

So yeah, Revis could simply sit out all of camp, then tell the team that he is available right before Week 1 and maintain that availability for 6(?) games.  Whether or not the team chooses to actually play him would be irrelevant.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Not this year.  In order for Revis to get a year towards FA he needs to show up by Aug 10. 

[Tepop84]

Revis still holding out.  What a cancer he is.  It has also been pointed out that he held out to get the contract that he is currently holding out on.  He is a piece of shit.

[gocowboys31]

Revis still holding out.  What a cancer he is.  It has also been pointed out that he held out to get the contract that he is currently holding out on.  He is a piece of shit.

you're hilarious. So he's a piece of shit for trying to secure his future. He saw what happened to his buddy Leon Washington and it's not going to happen to him. The jets are the ones who put themselves in this position. Mike tannenbaum went down on the field after the AFC title game loss to the colts and told Revis he was going to be the highest paid CB. Rex Ryan is the one shooting his mouth off about how Revis is the most dominant defensive player in the league. Revis and his camp are just being quiet, meanwhile Woody Johnson and tannenbaum are in front of every camera trying to do damage control. They can talk all they want. The bottom line is that the jets can't sell their fans or more importantly the players in that locker room that they can win the super bowl without revis. Again, Revis will win the battle when all is said and done.

[Tepop84]

you're hilarious. So he's a piece of shit for trying to secure his future. He saw what happened to his buddy Leon Washington and it's not going to happen to him. The jets are the ones who put themselves in this position. Mike tannenbaum went down on the field after the AFC title game loss to the colts and told Revis he was going to be the highest paid CB. Rex Ryan is the one shooting his mouth off about how Revis is the most dominant defensive player in the league. Revis and his camp are just being quiet, meanwhile Woody Johnson and tannenbaum are in front of every camera trying to do damage control. They can talk all they want. The bottom line is that the jets can't sell their fans or more importantly the players in that locker room that they can win the super bowl without revis. Again, Revis will win the battle when all is said and done.

Sure he is a piece of shit because he held out to get the security of a 6 year deal, now 3 years in, he doesn't think his contract is fair and holds out again.  Honestly, revis is not going to make the jets go from a non super bowl contender to a super bowl contender, he is just a fucking cornerback.  You think if the jets give him a deal that makes him the highest paid cb, and he has an off year where he drops out of the top 3, that he is going to renegotiate to give some money back?  Probably not, which is why he is a hypocritical piece of shit. If you sign a 6 year deal, don't back out 3 years in.

[JVides]

The whole point, I hear, is that he wants to be paid more than Nnamdi Asomugha, who's making over $15 M a year for the Raiders. 

Well, two things on that: 

1 - What corner should make $15 M a year?
2 - Who cares what the Raiders do contractually?  They should be considered the way foreclosures are counted for real estate appraisals.  You only use them if there are no orther comparable sales / transactions.

I think Revis should not be holding out.  He is under contract.  He's hurting his team in the pursuit of more money (Let's not kid ourselves; he's not playing the full season).

[Brian Fein]

The only reason Revis is holding out is so that he can make more money.  After this season, when he takes a nose-dive in stats, he won't be worth all that money, so he's trying to strike while the iron is hot.

Its now or never for Revis, but I wonder if the team should put a clause in there that next season they can renegotiate based on this season's play.

[fyo]

This issue comes up all the time -- and we deal with it here at least twice a year (once after the season, once right before the season).

Is it reasonable for athletes to demand a new contract when they are still playing on the one they signed?

I doubt we'll ever get anywhere... it really seems like everyone has an opinion and  they're sticking to it.

The arguments in a nut shell:

The "play and shut up" argument: You've signed a contract. You're getting paid to play football. Do you job, get a big contract next time. And it's not like players will give back money if they play "below" their worth.

The "pay me" argument: Contracts are not guaranteed in the NFL. If teams don't have to honor the contract, why should the player? Renegotiating is simply part of the game and both sides know it. And, to address the "below their worth" argument, if a player isn't worth the money he's being paid, he gets cut.

[Pappy13]

The problem is that Revis is not willing to compromise.  Of course 1 mil a year is not enough for him, but there's no way that the Jets should pay him 10 mil a year or give him a lifeftime contract which is what he wants when he has a contract already.  If he would lower his demands to say 6 mil a year for the next 3 years it'd already been done and he'd be in camp.

[JVides]

^^^Yeah, but I think his current contract does call for like $5 M a year, as his rookie contract was for 6 years, $30 Million.  Apparently, the Jets are offering 10 years, $120 Million, and he wants 10 years, $160 million.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/2010/08/11/2010-08-11_40m_gap_guarantees_big_trouble.html

Don't get me wrong, folks.  A guy that is severely underpaid should try to get his salary increased.  I just don't agree with the holdout premise, in most cases.

[Phishfan]

^^^Yeah, but I think his current contract does call for like $5 M a year, as his rookie contract was for 6 years, $30 Million. 

But he is only scheduled to make $1M this season based on what I have read. The money still hasn't kicked in for Revis (isn't it odd that we consider making $1M not having your money kick in yet).

[Pappy13]

^^^ Actually I would assume it's the reverse, that most of that $30 million was a signing bonus and he's already gotten it.  His salary for this year is just 1 million and will probably go up another 2 or 3 million over the next couple of years.

[Phishfan]

^^^I read that he was scheduled to receive $20M over the next two years, guranteed, but he is losing out on that based on this holdout. I assume that was included in the $30M total contract so there was a little in the front but the bulk was in the back.

[Pappy13]

Well if that's true why would he hold out?  He's due $20 million over the next couple of years and he has a problem with that?  He thinks he's going to get a BETTER deal than that over the next 2 years?  No wonder the Jets are giving him the cold shoulder.

Ok, just read the article and it says it's $21 million over the last 3 years of his contract with $20 million guaranteed.  That's $7 million a year.  He wants around $16 million a year which is just ridiculous.  The Jets say they are willing to make it around $10 million a year for the next 4 years.

Um...why is he holding out again?

[Spider-Dan]

Sure he is a piece of shit because he held out to get the security of a 6 year deal, now 3 years in, he doesn't think his contract is fair and holds out again.

Would you be just as opposed if a team had cut him, re-signed him for less money, and then cut him again?

Guaranteed contracts work both ways.

You think if the jets give him a deal that makes him the highest paid cb, and he has an off year where he drops out of the top 3, that he is going to renegotiate to give some money back?  Probably not, which is why he is a hypocritical piece of shit.

He probably wouldn't need to because he'd be cut.

If you sign a 6 year deal, don't back out 3 years in.

Tell this to management.