Movies I've seen this summer (Best,Worst,Over hyped)

[Dave Gray]

I'm older than you think, probably.  I'm 33.  But, I am part of the Internet generation.

Also, Kick-Ass is a critical darling, and has a lot of acclaim and a very high IMDB score.  I think you're underestimating how "good" of a movie it is.  I would also say that the acting is terrific in Kick-Ass too, specifically Hit-Girl.  Also, the fight direction is superb it pretty much brought Nick Cage back from the brink.

I think that Porky's is probably closer to something like "American Pie" from my generation.  ...Loved by lots of 20 year-olds, but not seen as a quality film.

I think you're really selling Kick-Ass short in terms of how much of a quality film it is, not just a silly comedy.

[Pappy13]

I'm older than you think, probably.  I'm 33.  But, I am part of the Internet generation.

Actually you're exactly how old I thought you were, I looked at your profile.

Also, Kick-Ass is a critical darling, and has a lot of acclaim and a very high IMDB score.

Had IMDB been around in '82 I think Porky's would have been rated very high as well at least initially.  Currently it has a 5.8 rating.  Why?  Because for the most part the people who really liked it went to see it in '82.  Those people who rated it on IMDB rated it years later either after having changed their opinion about it or having only seen it years later.  Contrast that with the Graduate that has an 8.2 rating.  Why didn't it get rated low?  It's because it's a good movie and withstands the test of time. 

Inception also has a very high rating right now.  Give it a little time.  A lot of movies are rated very highly when they are first released because the people that are rating them were waiting for it to come out and were very excited about the movie after having just watched it.  Usually those movies then tail off in ratings as people who really weren't waiting to watch the movie get a chance to see it and review it.  That's when you get a more realistic rating.

I would also say that the acting is terrific in Kick-Ass too, specifically Hit-Girl.  Also, the fight direction is superb it pretty much brought Nick Cage back from the brink.

I think you are vastly overating the acting.

I think that Porky's is probably closer to something like "American Pie" from my generation.  ...Loved by lots of 20 year-olds, but not seen as a quality film.

Yes, Porky's is exactly like American Pie which is exactly like Kick-Ass will be in 10 years.

I think you're really selling Kick-Ass short in terms of how much of a quality film it is, not just a silly comedy.

Perhaps.  It's just my opinion.

I think what makes Kick-Ass different for you is that you sound like you are a comic book fan and it meant more to you than the average person, I can appreciate that and for you the movie is better, but for those who aren't it's simply a silly comedy with some special effects.

[Dave Gray]

I think that Kick-Ass will remain highly rated, like the Graduate.  I think that's kinda my point.

I'm not saying that Kick-Ass is as good as the Graduate, by the way, which is regarded as one of the best of all time.  I'm just saying that I think that the generational appeal is similar.  I can respect the Graduate as a good film, while the older generation, when it came out, could not.

I think that my kids, for example, will continue to appreciate Kick-Ass, whereas the older generation now, will not.

[Pappy13]

I can respect the Graduate as a good film, while the older generation, when it came out, could not.

Why would you say this?  It was nominated for 7 oscars and won for best director.  It was highly praised by the film industry which was made up largely of the older generation.  Maybe I'm off base comparing Kick-Ass to Porky's, but I don't think you can compare the Graduate to Kick-Ass.  There's no comparison.

[bsfins]

I rarely go to the Movies,the last three movies I saw at the theater...Spiderwick Chronicles,Saving Private Ryan,and Scream....

The Book of ELI was the first movie I got to see in Blu ray,and It made me remember I've got a really good home theater system.....So it's the best....
Shutter Island - is the worst....Boring predictable,nailed the ending....
Over hyped - the Blind side, or the Crazies....

[Dave Gray]

Why would you say this?  It was nominated for 7 oscars and won for best director.  It was highly praised by the film industry which was made up largely of the older generation.  Maybe I'm off base comparing Kick-Ass to Porky's, but I don't think you can compare the Graduate to Kick-Ass.  There's no comparison.

The Graduate was on my mind because I just saw a Documentary about it this week.  The documentary was about how the older generation thought the movie was garbage, but that hippie culture really embraced it.  They struggled to even get the film made (also like Kick-Ass) because the material was too much for major studios.  It was the first time that adults were portrayed in that way in film.  (Much like how in Kick-Ass, superheros are portrayed in a different light for the first time.)  It's a show on AMC called "Movies That Shook The World".  ...good show, by the way. 

For what it's worth, my wife is older than me (35) and she's a literary nut.  She thinks that Kick-Ass was the best film of the year.  I think it just speaks to a different generation, is all.

To be clear, when I compare The Graduate to Kick-Ass, it's not because I think that they're the same kind of film.  I am comparing the generational split in connecting with what the movie is attempting to portray.

[Pappy13]

The Graduate was on my mind because I just saw a Documentary about it this week.  The documentary was about how the older generation thought the movie was garbage, but that hippie culture really embraced it.

Well I was only 4, so I can't really say for sure, but I'm wondering if the documentary was talking about a sub-set of the older generation as opposed to the general audience.  I'm sure there was a cross-section of the older generation that surely didn't like the movie as it was quite controversial at the time, but that had to do with the fact that Dustin Hoffman was supposed to be a young man sleeping with a middle-aged married woman.  I'm sure that ruffled more than a few feathers in 1967, but the general audience however thought it was a great movie that broke new ground as seen by the 7 Oscar nominations.  It wasn't just Hippies that liked it, it was pretty much anyone who wasn't offended by the nature of the movie.  I suspect most of those that thought it was garbage didn't even go see it.

It wasn't really a generational thing as there were probably 35 year old hippies that loved it and 19 year old "good Christian folk" that probably thought it was garbage.  It had more to do with your values than your agegroup.

[Dave Gray]

Good convo, by the way.

Anyhow, they definitely talked about the younger man / older woman thing, but they more focused on the negative/fake portrayal of adult living.  They focused on the line "Plastics" a lot, and how that summed up the generation looking to rebel from their parents, even going so far as creating that slang for people that lived that fake life, plastics.

The Graduate looked at adults like shallow, alcohol addicted, fake puppets.  I think that the older generation was more unable to connect with that idea.  At least that's the point that the documentary made.

[Pappy13]

Anyhow, they definitely talked about the younger man / older woman thing, but they more focused on the negative/fake portrayal of adult living.  They focused on the line "Plastics" a lot, and how that summed up the generation looking to rebel from their parents, even going so far as creating that slang for people that lived that fake life, plastics.

The Graduate looked at adults like shallow, alcohol addicted, fake puppets.  I think that the older generation was more unable to connect with that idea.  At least that's the point that the documentary made.

Interesting.  Maybe I just grew up in a household that was more open to that kind of stuff.  I'm Catholic, but I was always taught to have an open mind.  But that's a whole other conversation that I don't think we should get into here.

[Dave Gray]

^ You also said yourself that the movie came out when you were 4.  I'm sure that by the time you finally watched it that the masses had moved on and accepted it.

[SportsChick]

My favorite of the summer was Toy Story 3 Despicable Me is right up there too. Can't say as I saw anything that Disappointed, but I didn't see a lot

[Pappy13]

^ You also said yourself that the movie came out when you were 4.  I'm sure that by the time you finally watched it that the masses had moved on and accepted it.

I didn't actually watch the move until I was maybe 20 or so, but I remember hearing that it was great movie when I was growing up.  Got Dustin Hoffman's career going and all that, so if there was a backlash it didn't take long for people to get over it.