No place like home......

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

No Dave has it right.  If team A and team B are"equal" than playing at team A's field A would be a three point favorite.  At team B's field team B would be a 3 point favorite.  Moving the game from one home field to another is a 6 point swing. 

Then it's 3 points.

As stated, you gain 3 points over neutral field by playing at home.  Going from home to away is still a 3 point disadvantage for you, but it's also 3 point advantage to your opponent, which is a 6 point swing... however, that's compounding two separate events (you losing homefield, and your opponent gaining it).

Put simply: a game that is a pick'em on a neutral field would be a 3 point advantage to the home team if moved to one of the two team's stadiums.

[Pappy13]

No Dave has it right.  If team A and team B are"equal" than playing at team A's field A would be a three point favorite.  At team B's field team B would be a 3 point favorite.  Moving the game from one home field to another is a 6 point swing. 

Which is STILL a 3 point home field advantage over a neutral site which is what home field advantage means.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Which is STILL a 3 point home field advantage.

plus a three point not at home disadvantage for the other team. 

[Pappy13]

^^^That doesn't make sense.  If home field advantage was worth 6 points then they'd have to swing the line 6 points if they swapped the location.  It's only worth 3 points according to the line.  In other words if you were to switch the teams around Vegas would only swing the line 3 points.  So thinking of it the way you are home field advantage is only 1.5 points.

For example if Team A is favored by 3 points over team B when they are at home, the game would be ruled even by Vegas when those 2 teams played again at the other's place.  They don't give 3 points to the home team AND take away 3 points from the away team.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Nope if team A is favored by 3 points at home.  Team B would be favored by 3 points at team B's home.  And the game would be even, if played in a neutral location (London). 

^^^That doesn't make sense.  If home field advantage was worth 6 points then they'd have to swing the line 12 points if they swapped the location.  It's only worth 3 points according to the line.  In other words if you were to switch the teams around Vegas would only swing the line 3 points.  So thinking of it the way you are home field advantage is only 1.5 points.

For example if Team A is favored by 3 points over team B when they are at home, the game would be ruled even by Vegas when those 2 teams played again at the other's place.

[Pappy13]

Nope if team A is favored by 3 points at home.  Team B would be favored by 3 points at team B's home.  And the game would be even, if played in a neutral location (London). 

I think you're wrong, but I'm not going to argue it, so I'll conceed.

[Spider-Dan]

It's not that complicated.

Two evenly-matched teams, A and B, play on a neutral field.  The line is pick'em.

If the game is instead played at A's stadium, the line would be A favored to win by 3 points.
A has gained a 3 point advantage by playing at home.
Home-field advantage is 3 points.

Hoodie, you are comparing a game at your opponent's home to a game at your home.  That is the source of your error, as you are doubling the effect.  You should be comparing a neutral-site game to a game at your home.

[Dave Gray]

The advantage is 3 points, but a switch from home to away (which is what our conversation was about) is a 6 point swing.

[fyo]

This has to be the longest argument I've seen in a while where EVERYONE AGREES yet the arguing manages to continue.

[Spider-Dan]

The advantage is 3 points, but a switch from home to away (which is what our conversation was about) is a 6 point swing.

I think that Vegas has it about right: home-field advantage is worth about 6 points.

Surely you see the source of the problem.

If "home-field advantage" is "worth about 6 points," then going from your home to your opponent's home would be a 12-point swing.

[Dave Gray]

Right.  I should've said "home-field advantage is worth about a 6 point swing.  I figured you guys would extrapolate, since we were talking about playing at home vs. playing on the road (instead of playing at home vs. on a neutral field).  I think we're all on the same page now.

[yuppi]

im home right  now

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

well so much for the dolphins being the first team in NFL history go 8-8 by losing all their home games and winning all the road game.   

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

well so much for the dolphins being the first team in NFL history go 8-8 by losing all their home games and winning all the road game.   

But they could be the first NFL team to go 8-8 by going 1-7 at home and 7-1 on the road. 

[Pappy13]

I wouldn't bet on it.