Parcells leaves Dolphins

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

I agree with Pappy.  And it was basically what I posted when the rumors started about Parcells to the Dolphins.  He is much better at taking teams from absolutely crappy to solid than he is from solid to elite. 

He did his job.  The Dolphins are not the laughing stock of the AFCE.  (The Bills are.)  Its up to Ireland and Saprano to take the team to the next level (or not).

[MaineDolFan]

Parcells is the most over rated man on the planet.  Period.

Patriots were a 1-15 team lost a crap load of super close games.  Pure dumb luck that they weren't 7-9 or 8-8.  They were the most talented 1-15 team in the history of the world.  They added a couple key components to that uber talented team and took off.  Big surprise.

Jets had an amazing core when he took over.  So did Dallas.

EVERY team he went to was a team that was going to turn around shortly.  He arrived long enough to take credit and left quick enough to provide an excuse as to why he hasn't won a single Super Bowl since the 1980's.

Not one.

Not with New England.
Not with the Jets.
Not with the Cowboys.
Not with the Dolphins.

Parcells wants to impress me?  Go to Oakland and fix that mess.  

Where he'll end up?  A VERY good and on the upswing Detroit.  Then everyone will talk about his genius again.

He rides coat tails.  That's what he does.

See ya, Bill.  

[Phishfan]

Saprano

I noticed this yesterday as well. Is this a slip or a jab?

[Phishfan]

Patriots were a 1-15 team lost a crap load of super close games.  Pure dumb luck that they weren't 7-9 or 8-8.  They were the most talented 1-15 team in the history of the world.  They added a couple key components to that uber talented team and took off.  Big surprise.

Seriously? They went 1-15 and endured 3 more losing seasons until they made the playoffs again. The roster was almost a new team by then. Parcells didn't add a few pieces to a talented roster.

[Spider-Dan]

Patriots were a 1-15 team lost a crap load of super close games.  Pure dumb luck that they weren't 7-9 or 8-8.  They were the most talented 1-15 team in the history of the world.  They added a couple key components to that uber talented team and took off.  Big surprise.

The last time NE was 1-15 was in 1990; Parcells took over in 1993.  That 1990 team lost by an average of 16.6 points per game (in comparison, the '07 Dolphins lost by an average of 10.6 ppg).

Perhaps you meant the 2-14 team in 1992?  That team lost a total of five games by 7 points or less and two of those were by 3 points or less; again, in comparison, '07 MIA lost six games by 3 points or less.

I'll give you that NYJ had collected some talent before Parcells got there (they had the #1 pick the year before).  Dallas also had talent, but they were 5-11, not 1-15.  However...

EVERY team he went to was a team that was going to turn around shortly.

That's a pretty tough story to sell for Dallas, given that they had finished 5-11 for the previous three years in a row.

He rides coat tails.  That's what he does.

Again, given the amount of roster he turned over in Miami, that claim looks pretty feeble.  Whose coattails was he riding?

I do think that Parcells is a bit overrated (if not for the trip to the SB with NE, he should have approximately the same value as Marty Schottenheimer, who I think is underrated), but to say that the guy just "rides coattails" is way over the top.

[Sunstroke]

EVERY team he went to was a team that was going to turn around shortly.

Man, your clarity of vision for the future is without peer, Mainer... Of course all of those teams were going to turn it around shortly. How dare anyone think otherwise?

(Translation: The quoted post contains opinion and perspective, not clarvoyance)

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

I noticed this yesterday as well. Is this a slip or a jab?

Slip...My spelling is horrible.  And spell checker doesn't catch errors in coach's names. 

[bsfins]

I think Pappy pretty much said it all,we've gone from bare cub bard,to fresher groceries.The only big impact that I can really see this move hurting,is free agency.I hear guy's talk about Parcells, it seems after we sign someone, they tend to say something about Bill Parcells...But then again the whole Ryan Clark indecent last year,and the possible labor strife none of that might not matter...

[MikeO]

As I see it, there's ONE really bad pick in there and one "miss" (Turner). It's way too early to tell what this group will accomplish, but considering the bad drafting that's being going on in Miami for all too long, is this really a point to criticize? Hardly, IMHO.

One really bad pick? Pat White isnt' even on the team anymore. And Sean Smith is horrible. Not to mention Merling was the last pick of Rd 1 essentially since the Pats didn't have a pick that year and he has been a total bust on every level.

[bsmooth]

Hate on Bill Parcells all you want to. The man goes to every organization and builds a template that the organization can build off of for years and years into the future.

NY Giants - 1980's
-Won 2 Super Bowls and left the Giants as a decent playoff team for an additional 4 more seasons after he left

The Giants won in Jan 1991 which came at the end of the 1990 season. So he actually only won once in the 80's and once in the 90's.
But hey why would anyone want to brag about a former head coach of YOUR favorite team  by correctly listing the years he won the Super Bowl.

[Philly Fin Fan]

One really bad pick? Pat White isnt' even on the team anymore. And Sean Smith is horrible. Not to mention Merling was the last pick of Rd 1 essentially since the Pats didn't have a pick that year and he has been a total bust on every level.

I think he meant there has been one really bad pick (Pat White), and one miss (Patrick Turner). His lack of a comma made you think he was referring to the bad pick and the one miss being one and the same.

[fyo]

One really bad pick? Pat White isnt' even on the team anymore. And Sean Smith is horrible. Not to mention Merling was the last pick of Rd 1 essentially since the Pats didn't have a pick that year and he has been a total bust on every level.

As Philly indicated, Pat White was the "really bad pick" and "Patrick Turner" was the miss.

As for your impressions of Merling and Smith, I disagree on both counts.

Smith has been great at times, mediocre at other times. Just what you'd expect from a second year player. Right now, he's the "victim" of Jason Allen finally playing well (when he isn't tripping over himself covering Braylon Edwards, anyway).

Merling hasn't been quite good enough, but has shown more than just flashes of potential. Injury has cut short his 2010 campaign, but that's hardly an indictment of the pick itself (nor the player, unless he proves "injury prone" -- and we're not even close to that yet).

Regardless of play right now, what we need to remember is that this group of players is in the early stages yet. They have a lot of development to do.

[MikeO]

Wrong. Jason Allen is a victim of he is forced to play because Sean Smith stinks and Will Allen got hurt. That is the ONLY reason why Jason Allen starts. Not because he is any good, did you watch the Jets game where he was toasted all night???

Merling has been in the dog house for 2 years. He was overweight all of last season. Has been a major bust. And with his off the field issues he is another NFL head case who will NEVER live up to his potential. He won't be in Miami next year. When healthy and they can cut him they will.

If Merling didn't have the same agent as Parcells and Sparano he would have been gone last offseason. Now with Parcells gone, having the same agent as the head coach carries holds less water in personell decisions

[Spider-Dan]

Wrong. Jason Allen is a victim of he is forced to play because Sean Smith stinks and Will Allen got hurt.

They put Will Allen on season-ending IR when he had a 7-week injury.  They wouldn't have done that if J.Allen was a stopgap.

That is the ONLY reason why Jason Allen starts. Not because he is any good, did you watch the Jets game where he was toasted all night???

So I'm guessing you missed his 2 INT (plus one called back) game against MIN?

Merling has been in the dog house for 2 years. He was overweight all of last season. Has been a major bust.

Then you and I have very different definitions of "dog house" and "bust."  Merling has played in all 32 games he was eligible to play in (amassing 45 tackles and 15 assists as a non-starter), and had a pick-6 in a division-clinching win at NYJ in 2008 (which is not exactly commonplace for a DE).

If Merling didn't have the same agent as Parcells and Sparano he would have been gone last offseason. Now with Parcells gone, having the same agent as the head coach carries holds less water in personell decisions

So, to clarify: you are claiming that Parcells chooses which players to keep based on whether or not they use his agent?

[MikeO]

Merling's agent had a lot to do with us keeping him after he beat up his pregnant girlfriend. And the guy may play in games but for a 1st/2nd round pick to lose his starting job in year 2 and play minimal snaps last season, he is a bust.

Brett Farve threw the ball right at Jason Allen a few times, whoooptie damn doo, Allen caught it. Who doesn't pick off Farve these days? Marc Sanchez and Tom Brady destroyed Jason Allen and that is the Jason Allen that has been in this league for 4 years now. A crappy player who stinks. And the fact Sean Smith can't beat him out says how much Sean Smith stinks!!