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MyGodWearsAHoodie
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« Reply #15 on: December 06, 2010, 06:27:41 pm »

That's just lunacy. If they keep it up for another season, they're an elite player for two years. At this moment- right now- Wake is the best pass rusher in football by any and all stats. He is beating double teams for sacks and wearing out O-linemen who have been in the NFL for years, and who- by YOUR determination are sooooo much better than anyone in the CFL. You don't get it both ways- either the NFL is better, and he's beating the best of the best, or it's not better and what he did in the CFL carries merrit. -EK

He has had a good half a year in the NFL.   His accomplishments in the CFL are meaningless.  I am not ready to call him elite.   
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« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2010, 06:30:58 pm »

How is 11 games leading the league in sacks a half a year? Whether YOU are ready to call him elite or not doesn't mean he isn't. Despite whatever keyboard warrior reputation you have garnished here, the world does not base its judgement of elite status on you. Nearly 3/4 of the season is in the books and he's the best pass rusher. Period. What part of that is debatable? -EK
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« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2010, 06:40:10 pm »

Hope he doesn't go. It's just a game where there is a chance he blows out a knee or something. Don't want him getting hurt in the Pro Bowl
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« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2010, 06:45:21 pm »

I'd be fine with him not going as long as he's given the honor. Did Marino ever go? I seem to remember him having a mysterious knee ailment every year about that time. -EK
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« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2010, 06:51:30 pm »

He's not there because Dolphins' fans suck and don't support their team, in general.
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« Reply #20 on: December 06, 2010, 06:53:42 pm »

he's the best pass rusher. Period. What part of that is debatable? -EK

Majority of NFL fans disagree with you!
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« Reply #21 on: December 06, 2010, 08:19:05 pm »

That's just lunacy. If they keep it up for another season, they're an elite player for two years. At this moment- right now- Wake is the best pass rusher in football by any and all stats. He is beating double teams for sacks and wearing out O-linemen who have been in the NFL for years, and who- by YOUR determination are sooooo much better than anyone in the CFL. You don't get it both ways- either the NFL is better, and he's beating the best of the best, or it's not better and what he did in the CFL carries merrit. -EK

The history of the NFL is littered with guys at all positions who had a great season, and then faded into a footnote. Wake is having a phenominal year, but I am not ready to call him the next Jason Taylor, Bruce Smith, or Reggie White until he can back it up with a couple more dominant seasons as a leading pss rusher in the league.
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« Reply #22 on: December 06, 2010, 08:47:14 pm »

This year, he is the best pass rusher in the league (so far).  He should go to the Probowl if he keeps it up.  It's a popularity contest, and that's it.
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« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2010, 09:05:20 am »

Majority of NFL fans disagree with you!

That isn't a ringing endorsement.
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« Reply #24 on: December 07, 2010, 10:07:31 am »

That isn't a ringing endorsement.

Lets back track for a moment.  The original question was posed as to why Wake was doing better in the pro-bowl voting?

As is typically the case fans of a particular team often view more of their players as pro-bowl worthy than fans league wide.  Often over emphasizing the greatness of their own players and seeing the flaws of competing players.

I answered why Wake is not doing as well in pro-bowl voting among the fans of the other 31 teams as he is doing in the hearts of Dolphin fans.  You can not like the answer.  But I laid out why the majority of NFL fans disagree with Eknight on Wake's pro-bowl worthiness. 
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« Reply #25 on: December 07, 2010, 10:54:04 am »

I'm not starting an argument, merely making an observation. Going into any sports bar I am typically underwhelmed by the general knowledge of most sports fans. That is all I was trying to say.
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« Reply #26 on: December 07, 2010, 08:45:01 pm »

Lets back track for a moment.  The original question was posed as to why Wake was doing better in the pro-bowl voting?

As is typically the case fans of a particular team often view more of their players as pro-bowl worthy than fans league wide.  Often over emphasizing the greatness of their own players and seeing the flaws of competing players.

I answered why Wake is not doing as well in pro-bowl voting among the fans of the other 31 teams as he is doing in the hearts of Dolphin fans.  You can not like the answer.  But I laid out why the majority of NFL fans disagree with Eknight on Wake's pro-bowl worthiness. 

Valid points, but Wake has been dominant and leads the league which means that many fans are ignoring this fact or just playing the homer things which is why I hate the concept of fans voting who goes. It's not like a lot of people watch the Pro Bowl game anyway.
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« Reply #27 on: December 13, 2010, 09:49:57 am »

I am still not sold on Wake being a pro-bowler.  But your punter has earned my vote.   
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« Reply #28 on: December 13, 2010, 11:16:24 am »

85% of people who vote for pro-bowl vote on name recognition.

Peyton Manning is having a horrible year by his own standards, but I bet he still makes the pro-bowl.
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« Reply #29 on: December 13, 2010, 11:40:23 am »


Peyton Manning is having a horrible year by his own standards, but I bet he still makes the pro-bowl.

By his own standards.  He has thrown as many ints as Henne and more ints than Sanchez.  He isn't having a bad year comparable to himself.  He is having a bad year comparable to some crappy QBs. 
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