Time for Tony Sparano to put up or shut up.

[Sunstroke]

If we bring in John Fox, Jon Gruden, Jeff Fisher, or Bill Cowher....we are a better team. There is no dobut about that.

There is no doubt IN YOUR MIND about that

(hasn't this lesson sunk in yet?)

[Cathal]

There is no doubt IN YOUR MIND about that

(hasn't this lesson sunk in yet?)

Not trying to start anything, but I would think it would be common sense to say we would be a better team with a veteran head coach.

[Sunstroke]

^^^ You're not starting anything...you're just expressing that is your "opinion" as well...  No problema.

At least two people who have commented on this subject (myself, Dave) disagree with this opinion. Since you're projecting what will happen "in the future," given certain events transpiring, it's just guessing...as no one here is clairvoyant and can accurately see the future.  You think a veteran coach would make the team play better...cool. I (and at least one other person) believes that the head coach isn't the issue, as much as a mediocre level of talent.  I also agree with Dave that consistency at the head coach position is important, especially with a team that has a lot of young players on the roster.

[Insert MLK's "I have a dream..." speech]

I really look forward to the day when everyone understands that...

1) ...All opinions regarding future events are just opinions, regardless of the level of conviction a person feels about that opinion, until events come to pass that prove or disprove those opinions.

2) ...People who disagree with your opinion of future events aren't wrong until those events come to pass that disprove the alternate opinion.

3) ...People can disagree with other people's opinions of future events without insulting or attacking the person who holds a differing opinion.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

I think Sunny is trying to point out the difference between opinion and fact....

Opinion: the team would be better off with a different coach

Opinion: Sapano is a better coach than Shula and Belichick combined.

Fact: Sapano took over a team that was one overtime win of joining the '76 Bucs as the only winless team to that point.

Fact: The Dolphins record under Sapano was worse in year 2 than year 1. 

[CF DolFan]

Opinions should be started by saying "I, we, or they feel" or "I, we, or they believe" but people don't. I think this is why people even confuse themselves as to fact or opinion.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Opinions should be started by saying "I, we, or they feel" or "I, we, or they believe" but people don't. I think this is why people even confuse themselves as to fact or opinion.

I don't know if we have to go that far...but don't end opinions with "There is no doubt about that." 

[Dave Gray]

If we bring in John Fox, Jon Gruden, Jeff Fisher, or Bill Cowher....we are a better team. There is no dobut about that.

I have doubt about that.

If we had any of these guys, it'd be the same story, but we'd have a more famous coach.  We bring in big people, get all excited, and then run them out of town after a few years.  It's a bad cycle.

Besides, I don't think it's fair to say that he has failed all 3 years.  We will have had 2 winning seasons, out of three, with improvement from last year.  This is a guy who can theoretically still finish 10-6.

Teams that dump coaches every few years remain crappy teams.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Teams that dump coaches every few years remain crappy teams.

Steelers:

Number of Superbowl wins: 6
Number of head coaches in the super bowl era: 4

To steal a line from time-life books, "Coincidence? I think not"

[Frimp]

Steelers:

Number of Superbowl wins: 6
Number of head coaches in the super bowl era: 4

To steal a line from time-life books, "Coincidence? I think not"

Thanks! And not to mention, the ego of one of those coaches woild result in Mike Nolan going bye bye to make room for the new coaches people. Haven't we had enough of that?

Some people have this mindset that its walking papers for any player who doesn't make the Pro Bowl, and every coach that doesn't have us going 18-1 with a Super Bowl win.

[Pappy13]

Opinions should be started by saying "I, we, or they feel" or "I, we, or they believe" but people don't. I think this is why people even confuse themselves as to fact or opinion.

That is why I will sometimes end my opinion with....

That's just my opinion, I could be wrong.

Hopefully that helps people remember it IS only my opinion.

[Dave Gray]

Thanks! And not to mention, the ego of one of those coaches woild result in Mike Nolan going bye bye to make room for the new coaches people. Haven't we had enough of that?

Exactly!  I think that there are salvagable parts to this organization  and leadership.  To get rid of the coach at the top means all new assistants, trainers, etc.  I like Sparano's fire and would rather target only the problem areas.

If this team had a discipline problem or the coach had lost the locker-room, I can understand starting at the top, but as is, Sparano is motivated and has the heart of his players.

And regarding John Fox or Cowher or Gruden, I don't want a re-tread coach.  I want someone who's young and hungry.

[Frimp]

You'd think we would have learned our retread lesson from Jimmy Johnson and Dave Wannstedt.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

You'd think we would have learned our retread lesson from Jimmy Johnson and Dave Wannstedt.

I don't think you can make a broad stroke statement that all retreads are bad:

Shula
Belichick
Dungy

[Frimp]

I don't think you can make a broad stroke statement that all retreads are bad:

Shula
Belichick
Dungy

More often than not, they are..and no head coach has ever won Super Bowls with 2 different teams.

Wade Phillips
Jimmy Johnson
Dave Wannstedt
Chan Gailey
Buddy Ryan
Bill Parcells
(Opposite) Dick Vermeil
Marty Shottenheimer
Mike Holmgren
Mike Shanahan
Dennis Green
etc

Dungy could be the exception, because as far as I'm concerned, he should have a ring with the Bucs as well.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

^^^ I am not saying all retreads are good.  But not all are bad.  Each must be judged on his own.

I don't think this is the time for the Dolphins to make a coaching change.  But if it was it would be foolish to either exclude all retread or focus only on retreads.