Who to go after at Quarterback?

[dolphins4life]

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I choose those games because they were supposed to be easy victories at home against the worst teams in the league.  And he went out and stunk the place up.   

[masterfins]

David Lee, the QB coach needs to take some blame for Henne's failure.  Lee needs to GO.  Lee doesn't have the NFL experience to be tutoring a young QB.  While we're at it lets dump Steve Bush, the Offensive Quality Control coach, I don't know what he's been doing this year, but there has not been enough quality on offense this year.

[CF DolFan]

so I misidentified Fasano, but from what I saw in the video, the TE was wide open.   I'm confused as to how he didn't do what he was supposed to do. 

The first pick was at least partially on rookie tight end Mickey Shuler, playing there only because Anthony Fasano had a banged-up right knee. In Shuler’s defense, he hadn’t been active in nine weeks.

That was a combination of a few things,” Sparano said. “One, the decision wasn’t great. Let me say this, Chad Henne … only had six minuses out of the entire football game. One of them was on that play particularly, and there was a combination of two or three things that happened. The tight end didn’t sit down. He kind of drifted on him.”
The second pick went right over a fallen Davone Bess. Again, more wiggle room for Henne.
“We have a receiver open,” Sparano said. “The receiver’s open at the stick. He falls down, slips and the ball ends up in their hands. We’re going to the right place with the football.  It was thrown in the right area. The receiver falls down and they pick it off and we miss three tackles on the play.”

[tepop84]

May I ask why you chose these 3 games?  Might it have been because they were all losses?  How about you analyze a few of the wins? Since you chose the last 3 games where they lost, how about you do the same for the last 3 wins, the Jets, Raiders and Titans?

Here' I'll help you out.  Henne was 62 of 102 with 5 TD's and 3 interceptions. Not exactly franchise numbers but certainly encouraging enough to think that given the right circumstances he can be a very effective QB.

That's how I can argue that he *might* be the QB of the future. 

I don't think your stats are correct. Henne was 41 for 76 for 602 yards with 4tds and 2 interception in the last 3 games vs. jets raiders and titans.  

[Pappy13]

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I choose those games because they were supposed to be easy victories at home against the worst teams in the league.  And he went out and stunk the place up.   

They were at home, that's a fact.  I don't think any of the games were considered easy victories especially for Miami.

And you're forgetting that the defense gave up 21 points to Detroit on drives of 80 and 86 yards and a 53 yarder to cut the lead from 10 to 3 in the final 5 minutes.  Carpenter missed 4 FG's against Buffalo.  They were just as stinky.

[Spider-Dan]

Please don't twist my words or put words in my mouth.  I said IF the punter is the best available player than take him.  If he's not then don't.  I said NOTHING about chasing a player, in fact, I said just the opposite.

I don't care if we have the opportunity to draft the next Shane Lechler or Morten Andersen.  We should pass, because we already have solid players at those positions.

Taking "the best player available" when a) you already have a top-tier player at that position and b) you have many other holes you need to fill.  Houston has lots of holes to fill too, but that doesn't mean they should pick a QB if that's "the best available player."  They already have a good QB.

I agree, but if the best available player in round 5 is a punter, I'd rather take him than CHASE a QB.

I'd rather us pick for a position that we need to fill, rather than picking "the best available player" (who, at round 5, would be the ~150th best player in the draft).  If we miss out on the 150th best player (at a position we are solid at) so we can take the 175th best player (at a position we need help at), I'm fine with that.

But we could use a RT and depth.

But according to you, if "the best player available" is a one-position LT, we should pick him.  That's ridiculous.

[Pappy13]

But according to you, if "the best player available" is a one-position LT, we should pick him.  That's ridiculous.

There are ton's of college left tackles playing right tackle in the pros.  Hell there are some playing guard.  Good coaches always find a way to get the best players into the game.

[bsmooth]

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I choose those games because they were supposed to be easy victories at home against the worst teams in the league.  And he went out and stunk the place up.   

You mean against a much improved Bills and Lions team? They played other very good teams hard, not exactly the push overs they used to be years ago.

[MikeO]

You mean against a much improved Bills and Lions team? They played other very good teams hard, not exactly the push overs they used to be years ago.

How are the Bills much improved?? lol Last year they were picking 9th in the draft. This year they will picking 5th or 6th. Seems like they got worse to me! lol lol

I seriously wonder what games you people watch every week?

And the Lions hadn't won a road game in like 4 or 5 years until 2 weeks ago. They are the symbol of excellence   

[badger6]

You mean against a much improved Bills and Lions team? They played other very good teams hard, not exactly the push overs they used to be years ago.

Those are still games that we should have and could have won, especially at home !!!

[MaineDolFan]

David Lee, the QB coach needs to take some blame for Henne's failure.

Agreed, but I also think Henne takes most of the blame for Henne's failure.  Bad decisions with the ball under pressure, poor clock management...those are things you either have inside your noodle or you don't.

After having all season to watch Henne my personal opinion is that the guy flat out doesn't have the make up to be a starting NFL QB.  He just doesn't.  There are things you can learn and things you can't.  His talents, and the areas where he can improve, don't supersede the vital aspects of his position where "you either have it or you don't."

I have ZERO idea who the answer is at QB for next season.  I just feel it shouldn't be Henne.

I do like the kid in Philly, a team that should lock up Vick.  Maybe a trade is in order.

[tepop84]

I don't really want Kolb. When has an Eagles qb looked bad in that system?

[MaineDolFan]

^^Agreed.

BUT the other guys were late round guys that happened to stick around and get their shot.  Kolb has some really nice tools to work with, which seperates him from the AJ Feeleys of the world.  Well, at least on paper.  Right?

I'm at a loss for this position.  It's the most important position in the game.  It's vital that Miami find, in the least, a middle of the road guy.  I just don't know who.

[tepop84]

If palmer gets cut, I wouldn't mind giving him a shot. Or if Denver decides to trade orton.  I don't want mcnabb, but would take him over henne, and I don't want VY at all.

[MaineDolFan]

Palmer is interesting.  But he's looked utterly lost at times this year.  Then again, he plays for the Bungles.

Orton would be interesting as well...but is he really a long term answer?  Career year this year.  Fluke?  Real?  I don't know if I want to pin my hopes on finding out.

I want nothing to do with McNabb...