Dolphins pick #15.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

What position? Who do you want?  Who do you think the Dolphins will draft?  Trade up? Trade down?

Discuss. 

[Frimp]

Well, I say QB. No second rounder, so they kind of have to. But, I'd imagine we'll see several of the first 14 take QBs. So, enter the Ronnie talk. Maybe trade Ronnie and our #15 for a top 5 pick?

[CF DolFan]

^^^^ Ronnie is a free agent so we would have to sign and trade.

[Sunstroke]

Well, I say QB. No second rounder, so they kind of have to. But, I'd imagine we'll see several of the first 14 take QBs. So, enter the Ronnie talk. Maybe trade Ronnie and our #15 for a top 5 pick?

I think that may be extremely optimistic in regards to Ronnie's value. I just don't see too many teams out there who would consider Ronnie an upgrade over what they currently have.

I actually wouldn't mind seeing a trade-down to later in round one, if possible, just to try to recoup that second rounder.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

^^^ also unless a new CBA is signed before draft day, there can be NO player trades.  Pick for pick trades are okay, but players can not be traded until a new CBA is signed.  Nor RFA tenders made or franchise tags applied.  Not sure if FA signings are possible, but I doubt it.  

[CF DolFan]

Just for conversation and the fact I know you guys are on top of all things football ... who are the college QBs coming out and what kind of sacrifice would it take for us to get a legitimate option?

[fyo]

I wouldn't mind us picking a quarterback in the first round if a good one is available, but I just don't see it as a major issue.

Without a new CBA, we're limited to trading picks for picks, so I don't see any way we trade up. 3rd round picks have pretty much zero value compared to top 10 picks. Maybe we could jump a spot or two, but that's the limit of it.

Some interesting players:

Marcell Dareus, DT, Alabama. He's disappointed a bit this season and so might slip. Probably not to #15, though.
Stephen Paea, DT, Oregon State. Really like this guy, but might not be well-suited to the 3-4. Probably won't play inside in the NFL. Still, I'd love the pick.
Cameron Jordan, DE, California. Not sure about this guy. Afraid this is who we'll wind up with.

This doesn't seem like a good draft for offensive tackles... Derek Sherrod (Mississippi State) is one of the favorites. Doubt he'll be a left tackle, but he seems like the best option to upgrade our O-line (and we don't need a left tackle).

Mike Pouncey (Florida) is an early favorite as the first OG to go.

If we trade down, there might be some decent "beef" late in the first round / early in the second. Personally, a solid and durable guy like Anthony Costonzo seems like a perfect upgrade for our O-line. Not sure where he'll go, since some teams might think he needs to bulk up.

I wouldn't mind getting a guy like TE Kyle Rudolph, either, although 15 is probably high to grab a TE.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Without a new CBA, we're limited to trading picks for picks, so I don't see any way we trade up. 3rd round picks have pretty much zero value compared to top 10 picks. Maybe we could jump a spot or two, but that's the limit of it.

Next years first and/or second is how.  Not saying it is the brightest idea in the world to mortgage the future, but with 2012 picks the Dolphins could move up.  With this years first and next years first you probably could get Carolina's #1 overall. 

[fyo]

Next years first and/or second is how.  Not saying it is the brightest idea in the world to mortgage the future, but with 2012 picks the Dolphins could move up.  With this years first and next years first you probably could get Carolina's #1 overall.

Conventional Wisdom discounts a future pick by a round. So this years first and next years first, is worth about a first and a second. That's not going to provide enough leverage to make a run at the top pick.

(And I don't see us giving up a future top pick, regardless)

[hordman]

is there any way with the 15th overall pick, that you can select a new head coach?  or possibly a new GM.

I mean, I know these kind of positions don't come out of college on draft day, but maybe instead of looking at players at the NFL combines, we should be scouting coaches & GMs at the combines.  that will be a different twist!!!!  LOL

wow.  this organization has soooo many glaring needs and has missed sooo many times on players, does it matter where we pick?

the CULTURE needs to change down there in SoFla.  until someone comes in with a completely new take on what has gone on in the past, it will be status quo.

I'm tellin ya, it's the curse of Shula, not that Don would put the hex on MIA because of the way he was ushered out, but the Football Gods themselves for dissing the greatest coach of all-time.

Jimmy Johnson, I hope you rot in hell.

[dolfan13]

from fiedler to henne and everyone in between... the only thing miami has been consistent at the past 12 years has been bad qb play. until you get a real qb in here that you can build a franchise around, they will be replaying this coaching carousel every 3 years.

[masterfins]

I'd like to see the entire draft focus on RB's, OL, and TE's.  Just take the best player available on the board in any of these positions when our turn comes up.  Included in RB's are Full Backs.  It's been quite a while since the Fins had a Full Back that could smash it up the middle for those third and short yardage situations, and i'm sure it's not asking too much that he also have a good pair of hands to catch some short passes and turn them into 25 yd gains.

[Pappy13]

Next years first and/or second is how.  Not saying it is the brightest idea in the world to mortgage the future, but with 2012 picks the Dolphins could move up.  With this years first and next years first you probably could get Carolina's #1 overall.  

I'd be willing to do that at this point.  What could it hurt?  I'm not convinced that Henne was the lone source of Miami's problems this year, but I don't think he's ever going to be a franchise QB either.  At most he'll cut down on the interceptions and be a decent journeyman QB.  If the Dolphins think a franchise QB will fix all the ills, I say go for it.  Get a high enough draft choice to pick the best QB coming out of college this year and let him compete with Henne and Thigpen next year.  Let Henning retire and bring in a young aggressive offensive coordinator.

Sparano will NEVER do it.  I don't think he really believes that QB is the problem.  He'll want to rebuild the offensive line (again) and get the running game going by bringing in a couple new RB's.  He'll find a new offensive coordinator and tell everyone that the offensive problems are fixed.  Course they won't be because it will still be the same boring conservative offense that the last offensive coordinator ran out there because the offensive coordinator is at the mercy of the head coach and the head coach just told the last offensive coordinator that he was doing an outstanding job.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

I'd be willing to do that at this point.  What could it hurt?  I'm not convinced that Henne was the lone source of Miami's problems this year, but I don't think he's ever going to be a franchise QB either.  At most he'll cut down on the interceptions and be a decent journeyman QB.  If the Dolphins think a franchise QB will fix all the ills, I say go for it.  Get a high enough draft choice to pick the best QB coming out of college this year and let him compete with Henne and Thigpen next year.  Let Henning retire and bring in a young aggressive offensive coordinator.

Sparano will NEVER do it.  I don't think he really believes that QB is the problem.  He'll want to rebuild the offensive line (again) and get the running game going by bringing in a couple new RB's.  He'll find a new offensive coordinator and tell everyone that the offensive problems are fixed.  Course they won't be because it will still be the same boring conservative offense that the last offensive coordinator ran out there because the offensive coordinator is at the mercy of the head coach and the head coach just told the last offensive coordinator that he was doing an outstanding job.

If you trade up to take a QB, he won't compete for the starting job.  He gets it automatic.  No matter how good or crappy he is training camp and pre-season game.  Thiggy is a FA and it would be unlikely he would be resigned.  Henne becomes the #2.  Although coach will claim it is a competition between the draftee and Henne.

[tubba marxxx]

Mark Ingram..there's not NFL ready QB that's going to be available in the draft..running back/o-line/a REAL DT