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MikeO
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« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2011, 07:42:49 pm »

Vince Young is available. 

not the worst idea in the world.  He can be had cheap and you might catch lightening in a bottle.
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« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2011, 07:43:52 pm »

Oh great.  All the knee jerk reaction people will be screaming for the Dolphins to sign him.

What is  "knee jerk reaction people". Seriously we have had back to back 7-9 seasons. We can't even play .500 football. There is nothing knee jerk about wanting change.  We aren't a winning team or franchise. Something has to change!!
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« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2011, 08:05:22 pm »

Thanks for the example.
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« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2011, 08:10:07 pm »

Thanks for the example.

I would rather be one of these logical and realistic what you call "knee jerk reaction" fans who don't accept back to back LOSING SEASONS. Than a head burried in the sand dope who eats whatever horse crap is served to him!

Look in the mirror for your example.....if you can get your head out of the sand that is!
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« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2011, 08:30:27 pm »

Logical and realistic is knowing Vince Young is not a good quarterback.  Please keep up with the personal attacks, though.
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« Reply #20 on: January 05, 2011, 08:42:29 pm »

Since we don't have a 2nd round pick this year, which hurts, I just can't see trading away future picks to move up and get a QB, when there really isn't a QB (other than maybe Luck, who will go first) that is a definite.  The Fins just have too many holes to fill to give up this year's draft and future drafts on a QB.  If we were to strike gold with a QB I'm not sure he would be that effective without a running game and stellar blocking.  If there is a QB available in the 3rd or 4th round okay take a shot.  I really think our QB position can be upgraded with a better QB coach and Offensive coordinator.
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« Reply #21 on: January 05, 2011, 09:11:26 pm »

^^ 100% agree
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« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2011, 09:14:09 pm »

We already have our qb, he is 26 YO, his name is tyler thigpen.
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« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2011, 09:58:23 pm »

Honestly, if the team decided to not go QB in the draft this year, I'd take Young. Why...he has a winning record as a starter and could serve the team well until they decided to draft one. Say what you want, headcase, not very good QB, but he is a WINNER.

But draftwise...unless a miracle happened and the team traded to he top pick....No Luck....probably not even Jake Locker. So who does the team take. I'd be willing to take a chance on Cam Newton. He has done nothing but win in his only year at Auburn. I had a chance to watch him in person at the Auburn/UK game and can say that he single handely beat that team. What alot of people dont realize is that he makes reads and actually has the ability to stay in the pocket until the play breaks down. He has incredible running abilities. Big strong and fast. Cannon Arm. I'd take him. He's big and could probably take some hits. He's moderately accurate too. Idk about yall, but thats what I would do.

If Locker is there at pick 15 take him.

If he slips thru the crack which I think he will, like around the 3rd-5th round I'd take a chance on Tyrelle Pryor. Why...big...4.3/4.4 speed...pretty good arm strength, needs work on his mechanics but could make a good qb and mobile....

people need to realize that quarterbacks now need to be able to create and be able to get themselves out of certain situations, even if that means their feet. the days of the strictly pocket passers are long gone...you need a QB that will keep the defense guessing, so that cordinators cant just load up the box because the qb cant move.
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« Reply #24 on: January 05, 2011, 10:21:47 pm »

I could be wrong on this but I'm pretty sure Henne has one year left on his contract..so under new coaching (that seems inevitable), draft a qb to sit this year and have 2011 be Henne's make or break year..this way you have a backup plan instead of putting everything in an untested rookie..throwing a QB into the Lions Den rarely works..management can't be rash with the QB position..and no Tyler Thigpen is not the answer..I just don't want history repeating itself..a potentially top 5 defense with ABSOLUTELY no clue at quarterback..we've already been down that route..for most of the 2000 decade..Henne/Rookie/Thigpen is better than starting completely over..Henning's conservative offense worked wonders for Pennington..but not for Henne..lets see what a coaching change will do..another reason I say this is that I'm also tired of seeing Dolphins exiles excelling elsewhere
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« Reply #25 on: January 05, 2011, 11:16:32 pm »

Oh great.  All the knee jerk reaction people will be screaming for the Dolphins to sign him.

Im wondering about this as well?

Serious, SHOULD MIAMI CONSIDER VINCE YOUNG?

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« Reply #26 on: January 05, 2011, 11:20:49 pm »

IMO, no.
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« Reply #27 on: January 06, 2011, 12:49:20 am »

Logical and realistic is knowing Vince Young is not a good quarterback.  Please keep up with the personal attacks, though.

I never said he was good. But he could be had without giving up any draft picks probably as he will be cut. He could be had cheap. If we have the right offensive coordinator maybe he makes chicken salad out of chicken #&$(.

Since we aren't trading up to get Luck and since 4 QB's might be drafted before our pick at 15, ya gotta think of realistic options.

And don't be a crybaby about "personal attacks" when you start with them every time. If your gonna dish it out, be ready to take it!
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« Reply #28 on: January 06, 2011, 10:11:13 am »

If you think you hurt my feelings, sorry to disappoint you. I did not start the personal attacks.  If you think the knee jerk reaction remark was directed specifically towards you, that's your problem because it wasn't.  If I meant you, I would have used your name. 
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« Reply #29 on: January 06, 2011, 11:41:11 am »


I don't want Vince Young here. I am still firmly of the belief that two of most important weapons for a QB are his brain and the emotional stability to act as a leader. VY fails miserably in both categories.

Not to say that you don't need a strong arm, or accuracy on your passes, or a number of other tools, but if a QB wants to provide an overall positive influence on a team's offense, the brain and the leadership are pretty important factors.

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