Time to look at Quarterbacks

[fyo]

Why...he has a winning record as a starter and could serve the team well until they decided to draft one. Say what you want, headcase, not very good QB, but he is a WINNER.

I really hoped that was sarcasm... but apparently not.

[AZ Fins Fan 55]

Vince Young would be a terrible move. Let some other team in desperate need of a QB take a chance on this whack job!!!!!

[MikeO]

CBS Pregame show. Charley Casserly said Vince Young will be cut on Feb 7th, first day players can be cut. And he also said he talked to every team that will be in the market for a starting QB (assuming Miami fits that criteria) and not one of them said they have interest in Young as a starter.

Now I don't expect a team to tell a TV guy what they plan to do. And most of those teams don't have a head coach in place right now. So I take the report with a grain of salt.

I am not as down on Young as many here are. Especially since it costs us no picks to bring him in. He could be "Michael Vick 2.0" if he gets his head screwed on straight and has the right coaching.

[tepop84]

CBS Pregame show. Charley Casserly said Vince Young will be cut on Feb 7th, first day players can be cut. And he also said he talked to every team that will be in the market for a starting QB (assuming Miami fits that criteria) and not one of them said they have interest in Young as a starter.

Now I don't expect a team to tell a TV guy what they plan to do. And most of those teams don't have a head coach in place right now. So I take the report with a grain of salt.

I am not as down on Young as many here are. Especially since it costs us no picks to bring him in. He could be "Michael Vick 2.0" if he gets his head screwed on straight and has the right coaching.

He is not even close, nor will ever be close to michael vick.

[Diehard_Dolfan]

Im wondering about this as well?

Serious, SHOULD MIAMI CONSIDER VINCE YOUNG?

According to the Herald Miami IS considering Vince Young...

I don't want Vince Young here. I am still firmly of the belief that two of most important weapons for a QB are his brain and the emotional stability to act as a leader. VY fails miserably in both categories.

Not to say that you don't need a strong arm, or accuracy on your passes, or a number of other tools, but if a QB wants to provide an overall positive influence on a team's offense, the brain and the leadership are pretty important factors.

I'm not a Vince Young fan but I'm leaning towards looking into maybe having him as a QB...  I know he's been a head case with the Titans but, I'm blaming Jeff Fisher as much as Young!  According to all accounts Fisher never wanted Young and never really accepted him as his QB.  I can't imagine how tough it must be playing the QB position and never having your head coach believe in you....

[Stinger24]

HENNE: CMP ATT YDS COMP% YPA  TD INT SACK  RAT

2010 301 490 3301 61.4 6.74  15 19 30 75.4
Career 582 953 6246 61.1 6.55  27 33 56 75.3


THIGPEN: CMP ATT YDS COMP% YPA  TD INT SACK  RAT

2010 33 62 435 53.2 7.02  2 2 8 73.0
Career 269 496 3167 54.2 6.39  21 17 35 73.7

YOUNG: CMP ATT YDS COMP% YPA  TD INT SACK  RAT

2010 93 156 1255 59.6 8.0 10 3 13 98.6
Career 689 1990 8098 57.9 6.8 42 42 75 75.7

[MikeO]

And Young never had a full season with someone as talented as Marshall (like Henne had) or Bowe (like Thigpen had).

Im not saying Young is the answer. But the Fins don't have to give up draft picks to get him (unlike an Orton, Kolb...etc), the Fins don't have to give the guy a lot of money, its worth rolling the dice. If it works  you hit a home run. If not, you cut him, lose nothing and move on.

I don't see the downside! We can still draft someone to groom for the future. Bringing in Young doesn't stop that by any means. It's a low risk, high reward type of move.

[MikeO]

Peyton Manning is a free agent. We can always go sign him. lol

With no state income tax he could make more in the state of Florida than what Indy can pay him. lol lol. Gotta at least throw him an offer. 

[Alwaysdullfan]

I dont mind them getting a rookie QB even later in a draft, but I think they have to go for a vetertan, experienced QB to lead this team, Pennington was great for them I wish he stayed healthly and was younger but reality is he wont be playing much longer if at all but he was a leader. So I would go for maybe Kolb or McNabb, maybe T.Jackson from vikings i dunno I think McNabb is my #1 choice and have him lead the team, and the young rookie, or if they decide to keep Henne put him as a back=up and have him learn, but obviously Henne had time to learn from Pennington and he wasn't able to do anything so why still try to turn him into a franchise qb. I wish he can be a long term QB but he's not showing it, he's a starter cuz they got noone better but he's not playing like a starter. Someone like Mcnabb with his arm strength and exp. would make this offense much more explosive. I cant believe B.Marshall was almost not existent, i mean he had 3 cons. seasons with 100+ rec with Cutler, came to Miami and got what only 2 TD's, obviously alot of it is QB's fault, whether its his reads or accuracy decision making but they didnt click. They can try Henne again but what if it won't be any better or even worse. So just a rookie wont solve the problem I think, they need a veteran leader.

[Diehard_Dolfan]

I didn't get to see any of McNabb's games this yr so I'm not sure of his play but, I think he could come in for a yr - 3 yrs as a stop gap QB.  I don't think he's fell off that much since his last season in Philly.  He was let go in Philly more for age and salary than his not being able to run the offense. 

Pennington came in and did more than many thought he could... McNabb still has plenty enough arm and is mobile enough even at his age.  I think people tend to write off some players too soon!  Kurt Warner was a bag boy half a dozen teams passed on and came back to have what will be a Hall Of Fame career.  Rich Gannon turned his career around...

I'm just saying...

[MikeO]

McNabb lives in Arizona. Arizona needs a QB. It's gonna be tough to pry him away from Zona

[Pappy13]

And Young never had a full season with someone as talented as Marshall (like Henne had)...

And Henne has never had someone as talented as Chris Johnson in the backfield either.  Johson keeps linebackers and safeties worried about making tackles instead of dropping into coverage.

I think Young is a decent QB, but he's got a HUGE ego problem.  Only when he realizes that he doesn't know everything he thinks he knows is when he plays well.  It took him being benched for a year to realize he was gonna have to play like Fisher wanted him to play.  So he does it for a year, gets a big head again, Fisher tries to reign him in again and he blows up.  You can't have that from your QB no matter how talented he is.

[masterfins]

If you take a look around the NFL there are at least 20 teams that need a QB.  Given this is a poor draft for QB's, and the only QB's available in FA are a bunch of retreads on the downsides of their careers I think the Fins should stay with what they have.  I'd be okay with taking a late round QB pick or undrafted FA, but otherwise I think the Fins need to work on bolstering other positions (OL, DB, RB, MLB).  This team is two years away, at a minimum, from being a contender.  We could get Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, or Drew Brees tomorrow and we still would have a tough time making the playoffs.  My goal for 2011 is for the Fins to split wins with the Jets and Pats, win 10 games, and have a shot at a wildcard spot.  That's the reality of the situation.

[shamphin]

Regarding McNabb,Young and Kolb ,I don't want any of them!

Mcnabb had his chances couldn't get it done. He's not very accurate too many passes batted down,behind the receiver,over thrown down the field and in the dirt on 3rd down.

Young a big baby would never be the leader you need.

Kolb , too fragile I think he'll be another Trent Green one concussion after another.

Draft a rookie and let him learn. I'm tired of the retreads get a good big athletic Qb that can throw,run and read defenses or can learn to read defences.

I've been a Dolphins fan every since i can remember and this Qb situation is getting old. There aren't any veteran Qb's in the league worth wasting money on and the ones we have now are backups at best.So draft a Qb and running backs and build a winning team. Go Phins! 

[Diehard_Dolfan]

Regarding McNabb,Young and Kolb ,I don't want any of them!

Mcnabb had his chances couldn't get it done. He's not very accurate too many passes batted down,behind the receiver,over thrown down the field and in the dirt on 3rd down.

Young a big baby would never be the leader you need.



Kolb , too fragile I think he'll be another Trent Green one concussion after another.

Draft a rookie and let him learn. I'm tired of the retreads get a good big athletic Qb that can throw,run and read defenses or can learn to read defences.

I've been a Dolphins fan every since i can remember and this Qb situation is getting old. There aren't any veteran Qb's in the league worth wasting money on and the ones we have now are backups at best.So draft a Qb and running backs and build a winning team. Go Phins! 

Sounds great now only if it was that easy!!!

There have been many "big athletic Qb that can throw,run and read defenses or can learn to read defenses" in college... but, didn't translate to good NFL QB's

What you're saying is easy to say... But I don't see you naming anyone either?

I'm not jumping down on you just showing getting that QB isn't easy especially when you pick in the positions we usually do.  We missed on Matt Ryan but Jake Long is a great LT...  Matt Ryan can't save a team if he doesn't have a decent line..