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« Reply #150 on: January 22, 2011, 12:33:28 pm »

please explain dinosaurs too. 

God created the first life, in whatever form it was.  Adam & Eve is a parable. 
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« Reply #151 on: January 22, 2011, 12:37:37 pm »

God created the first life, in whatever form it was.  Adam & Eve is a parable. 
or god is make believe.  dinsosaurs were here like 200 million years ago but the son of god was here 2000 years ago, lol.
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« Reply #152 on: January 22, 2011, 03:26:09 pm »

If you don't believe, I can't make you believe, nor can you make me not believe.  Nobody ever said Jesus was around at the time the world was created or the time of the dinosaurs, so I fail to see your point on that one.
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« Reply #153 on: January 22, 2011, 09:39:20 pm »

If you don't believe, I can't make you believe, nor can you make me not believe.  Nobody ever said Jesus was around at the time the world was created or the time of the dinosaurs, so I fail to see your point on that one.

No offense but the apostle John said Jesus was here from day one.

John1:1
1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was with God in the beginning.

3Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4In him was life, and that life was the light of men. 5The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understooda it.


He goes on to say that Gods Word became flesh in Jesus.


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« Reply #154 on: January 22, 2011, 09:46:40 pm »

I'm on my iPhone with not much time but in Job two dinosaurs are mentioned as well bohemaths that ate the tops of trees. This was written thousands of years prior to archeology.

Also, the Bible is the history of mans relationship with God and not the history of the world.
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« Reply #155 on: January 22, 2011, 10:51:03 pm »

I'm on my iPhone with not much time but in Job two dinosaurs are mentioned as well bohemaths that ate the tops of trees. This was written thousands of years prior to archeology.

Also, the Bible is the history of mans relationship with God and not the history of the world.

That could have been one of the many giraffe's that Rome imported from Africa. The would seem to be behemoths that ate the tops of trees, especially in Italy.

Also according to the Bible the Earth is 6000 years old which is how it is preached by some sects of Christianity.
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« Reply #156 on: January 24, 2011, 12:04:24 pm »

Huh?

I studied Einstein's theory of relativity in college.  It don't recall any inconsistant paradoxs or contriditions in the theory.
There aren't any, it only requires that you realize that two observers can see the exact same thing from 2 different perspectives and have 2 completely different ideas about what is fact. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relativity_of_simultaneity

The theory of relativity also treats time as a 4th dimension which has some tie ins to what we are talking about.  Just as we can move about in our 3 dimensional universe, God can move about in the 4th dimension, time.  He can move forward in time and see the universe from a different frame of reference than we are capable of.  How he looks at things is relative to this, the 4th dimension, much like Einsteins theory of relativity. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spacetime

That is what I was referring to.
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« Reply #157 on: January 24, 2011, 12:52:51 pm »

I didn't mean to wear you out, ha ha. Einstein's theory of relativity ? Come on man you know science and god is like oil and water  Grin.

Dave, Sunstroke help me understand what Pappy is trying to say. Cause I can't wrap my head around it. Maybe I'm just stupid or something. Pappy is making me feel like Karl from Sling Blade.
I'm sorry, that was not my intent.  I was not suggesting you are too dim to understand it, only that your views on Religion prevent you from seeing that what I'm talking about has actually been understood by men like Einstein since the early 1900's and his theory on Relativity.  Yes it does require you to literally "think outside the box", but if you do, like Einstein often did, you see things in a completely different light.  There IS no definitive NOW, that's only something man has conjured up in his head to explain how the world around him works.  When you realize that time is merely another dimension, you realize how seemingly impossible things to understand (paradoxes) become understandable.  That's not to say I understand how it works which I really don't, only that I understand that it's possible for someone other than me (God) to see things differently because he has a unique perspective on us that we don't have, we can only imagine.

You keep talking about how you can't change things if God knows the future.  How can you change something that hasn't happened yet?  There is nothing to change because it hasn't happened yet, there is merely what you WILL do in the future. When you do it, it will be done and someone in the future (someone living after you die) will be able to see what you did, but NOTHING has changed.  We can't see what you WILL do in the present, but someone IN the future will see what you DID do, their past.  Do you think we can't see today what Einstein did?  Does the fact that we know what Einstein did today, make his actions pre-determined in HIS present.  No.  We merely are able to look back at what he did and take note of his actions because WE are in the future.  That is what God is able to do, because he doesn't exist in our now, he exists in his own now which is our future.
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