I'm warming to the idea of a re-tread QB.

[Dave Gray]

I was staunchly against this just a few weeks ago.  However, something about Henne's performance in the last few weeks has disgusted me so bad, that I think it's not even worth entertaining that he will be a viable stopgap QB.  I think that we're going to have to get another long-term solution, but I don't even think that Henne can keep it together in the short term.   I only wanted to hold on to Henne for his future prospects, but now since I have no faith in him, maybe Vince Young or McNabb isn't such a bad idea, as a 1 or 2 year solution.  They will likely play better than Henne, and I don't see us getting "the future" that will be suited up and playing right away.

[Dolarltexas]

A retread couldn't hurt.  I wouldn't even mind giving Thigpen another chance.

[badger6]

A retread couldn't hurt.  I wouldn't even mind giving Thigpen another chance.

^^^ Might as well. Can always throw Henne back to the lions as the backup QB if Thigpen doesn't work.

[MikeO]

We almost have to get a re-tread QB. Picking 15th we won't get one of the big 4  first round picks most likely. And the drop off this year is somewhat big. So if we take one after Round 1 that is a project player who can't play right away. Hell even Newton or Locker if they fall to us at 15 is a project who probably can't play right away.

Thigpen is a free agent so he's gone. Bring in a Vince Young, McNabb, Jackson type....let them compete with Henne. Draft a QB in the middle roudns if there is one you like and there ya go. If not, then wait till next years draft to take a QB you like.

[JVides]

Thigpen, really?  If we're going to go retread, shouldn't we go with a guy that's proven to have the goods in the past?  At least with, say, Carson Palmer, you know what he can do if he's right.  Same with Donovan McNabb.  I'd even rather give up a few picks for Kevin Kolb.  I feel like Miami's QB situation might be their version of Kyle Wright (Henne) and Kirby Freeman (Thigpen).  UM fans, you know what I'm saying, right?

[Phishfan]

I don't see the Eagles giving up Kolb for anything I'd be willing to give up. I agree with Dave. At first I thought a re-tread wouldn't help,  but our play at the position has been bad enough where I now say it couldn't hurt.

[Jim Gray]

If we are going to go re-tread, I can see two options.  If we can find a young prospect, then I would be in favor of McNabb.  Personally, I think he's pretty much spent, but at least he could mentor a young QB.  From everything I've seen, McNabb has his head screwed on straight and even if his play is diminished, he won't embarrass the team by his off the field antics.  Even with all the crap he's been given in Washington, he's been a stand up guy.

The second option is to go with Vince Young; but I don't think he's a stop-gap measure.  If you chase Vince, I think it's with the expectation that he will be your guy for some years to come.  Young is only 27, so there's a lot of football left in him.  Of course the issue is his mental stability and character.  He seemed to do fine at Texas, so I wonder if he couldn't turn things around in Miami, with the right coaching staff around him.

Since I don't think we will get a top QB prospect, I'm in favor of taking a shot a Young.  I'd like to see us bring in a QB coach that could work with Vince and help him build the tools that would make him successful.  At the same time, we could take a late round QB prospect and see what happens.

[tepop84]

Thigpen should be the qb of the team next year.  He is good, and he is only 26.

[Jim Gray]

Thigpen should be the qb of the team next year.  He is good, and he is only 26.

Thigpen had some statistical success in a spread offense with KC, where he could use his scrambling ability.  I just don't see how that works in Miami with the personnel we have.  From what I've seen, he will make some plays, but he will also make poor decisions and turn the ball over. 

What have you seen that would make you say he's "good"?  I think he's a back-up and not much more.  Before you point to his play in Kansas City, let me point out that they didn't think enough of him to keep him, and instead brought in Matt Cassel.   

[tepop84]

Thigpen had some statistical success in a spread offense with KC, where he could use his scrambling ability.  I just don't see how that works in Miami with the personnel we have.  From what I've seen, he will make some plays, but he will also make poor decisions and turn the ball over. 

What have you seen that would make you say he's "good"?  I think he's a back-up and not much more.  Before you point to his play in Kansas City, let me point out that they didn't think enough of him to keep him, and instead brought in Matt Cassel.   

They got a new coach who brought in his qb from the other team.  Thigpen never really got a chance with Todd Haley.

[bsfins]

Ok, then...In K.C. he was the 3rd Qb, Behind Huard,and Croyle....and only played because of injury,Neither of the other two guy's could stay healthy enough to take the job that season...He was constantly about to be benched as soon as one of the other two became healthy enough....He wasn't the chosen starter...He played out of necessity

[Jim Gray]

They got a new coach who brought in his qb from the other team.  Thigpen never really got a chance with Todd Haley.

Haley kept OC Chan Gaily who had implemented the spread offense that Thigpen was running.  I think it might have had something to do with Thigpen's record as a starter - 1 win 10 losses.  When Thigpen wasn't in the spread offense, his QB rating was 44.  

So, I'll ask once again.  What have you seen that makes you such a strong supporter of Thigpen as our starting QB when there are other options available.  What have you seen that would make you believe he is "good".  I have nothing against the guy, and I think he is a very serviceable back up who can come in and win a game or two; but I don't see him as a guy who is going to grow into a quality starting QB.

I'm not picking on you tepop, you aren't the only person on the board promoting Thigpen.  Since I think it would be a failure of the front office to not at least attempt to improve at the QB position, I'm going to keep pushing back when anyone suggests that Thigpen is the answer.

[BigDaddyFin]

Retread is one thing.  Look at the FA list somebody (Hoodie?) posted.  It's chock full of guys who are washed up and weren't worth a shit to begin with. 

[tepop84]

Haley kept OC Chan Gaily who had implemented the spread offense that Thigpen was running.  I think it might have had something to do with Thigpen's record as a starter - 1 win 10 losses.  When Thigpen wasn't in the spread offense, his QB rating was 44.  

So, I'll ask once again.  What have you seen that makes you such a strong supporter of Thigpen as our starting QB when there are other options available.  What have you seen that would make you believe he is "good".  I have nothing against the guy, and I think he is a very serviceable back up who can come in and win a game or two; but I don't see him as a guy who is going to grow into a quality starting QB.

I'm not picking on you tepop, you aren't the only person on the board promoting Thigpen.  Since I think it would be a failure of the front office to not at least attempt to improve at the QB position, I'm going to keep pushing back when anyone suggests that Thigpen is the answer.

If you take out his first couple starts in kc, he was really good to end the year. His Any/A was very good, and he added a lot of rushing yards. His real problem is that has gotten thrown in these mop up roles as a 3rd string and thrown a couple picks which are killing his stats. I think he could be a good qb in the future for the dolphins and I think sparano was an idiot for not playing him the last couple games.

[masterfins]

I'm against a retread QB.  I was always a fan of McNabb, thought he got far too much of the blame in Philly.  However, he seems to have a chip on his shoulder now and is only in it for the money/himself.  Vince Young is too much of a head case and would be a distraction.  Not sure if Thigpen would be a good starting QB or not, I think he deserves a shot in preseason.  However, others on this site have said since he is a FA and has not been offered a contract yet that it is unlikely he will be back.  Henne definately disappointed this year, I think he actually regressed.  I still think he has potential with the right QB coach and OC.  Let him fling the ball out there and let the receivers make some plays, yes there will be interceptions, but hopefully it will result in more TD's and better decision making in the future.