I'm warming to the idea of a re-tread QB.

[Dave Gray]

I was always a fan of McNabb, thought he got far too much of the blame in Philly.  However, he seems to have a chip on his shoulder now and is only in it for the money/himself.

I'm curious as to why you feel this way.  I'm not an expert on McNabb, but it seems at a quick glance that he's done everything he was supposed to in Washington, and hasn't caused a stink, despite getting treated poorly by the staff there.

[MikeO]

They got a new coach who brought in his qb from the other team.  Thigpen never really got a chance with Todd Haley.

Because Todd Haley saw him play and practice and decided he sucked....and Haley was and is right

[tepop84]

Because Todd Haley saw him play and practice and decided he sucked....and Haley was and is right

I hope i don't confuse you with facts, matt cassel was traded to kc before todd haley conducted any practices.  Matt cassel signed a long term deal with 28 million in guarantees before todd haley conducted any practices.  there was no chance that tyler thigpen was going to start over matt cassel regardless of how he played in front of todd haley.

probably didn't have as much to do with todd haley as with scott pioli.

[MikeO]

I hope i don't confuse you with facts, matt cassel was traded to kc before todd haley conducted any practices.  Matt cassel signed a long term deal with 28 million in guarantees before todd haley conducted any practices.  there was no chance that tyler thigpen was going to start over matt cassel regardless of how he played in front of todd haley.

probably didn't have as much to do with todd haley as with scott pioli.

You don't think Haley watched tape of every game from the season before once he took over? Please.

There was no chance because Cassell just won 11 games in new england and is a good player and Thigpen was playing porly in garbage time in KC.

[tepop84]

You don't think Haley watched tape of every game from the season before once he took over? Please.

There was no chance because Cassell just won 11 games in new england and is a good player and Thigpen was playing porly in garbage time in KC.

thigpens year in kc he had a 5.1 any/a, and cassels first year he had a 4.3 any/a.  it was pretty stupid for kc to sign cassel to big money because of his one year in new england.

[StL FinFan]

Yeah, the stupid Chiefs made the playoffs this year with Cassel.

[MikeO]

thigpens year in kc he had a 5.1 any/a, and cassels first year he had a 4.3 any/a.  it was pretty stupid for kc to sign cassel to big money because of his one year in new england.

^^^ WPOTY (by far)

Cassell just won them the AFC West and got them a home playoff game. Yeah, STUPID KC! 

[Sunstroke]

thigpens year in kc he had a 5.1 any/a, and cassels first year he had a 4.3 any/a. 

You and that any/a stat. It's like watching a dog with an old rope chew toy...no matter how nasty and slimy the thing gets from all the drool, you just can't get the dog to let it go.

(Yes, you can go ahead and report this post for an "uncomplimentary comparison" now)

[tepop84]

You and that any/a stat. It's like watching a dog with an old rope chew toy...no matter how nasty and slimy the thing gets from all the drool, you just can't get the dog to let it go.

(Yes, you can go ahead and report this post for an "uncomplimentary comparison" now)

Well ANY/a is a lot better indicator of how good a qb is in a team game such as football.  It is quite ridiculous to use wins and losses as a evaluation of an nfl quarterback.

[Phishfan]

I personally use my eyes, which most of us wish you would use more. There are three types of lies; lies, damn lies & statistics.

[tepop84]

I personally use my eyes, which most of us wish you would use more. There are three types of lies; lies, damn lies & statistics.

yea, because you guys were right on with your assessment of ronnie brown and chad henne.

[Dolphin-UK]

A re-tread QB is fine with me, but I want Vince Young or Tavaris Jackson (more mobile, not on the downside of their careers already like McNabb) who can compete with Thigpen and Henne. And then when we solve our offensive issues with a run game which actually threatens yards up the middle any of those three will be able to get some productivity in the passing game.

[Sunstroke]

Well ANY/a is a lot better indicator of how good a qb is in a team game such as football.  It is quite ridiculous to use wins and losses as a evaluation of an nfl quarterback.

Any time you focus on a single metric to judge a player, even the mighty-mighty "any/a" panacea, you miss out on all the details that provide both relativity and context, making any judgment of that player a "general estimate" at best. 

And, to get things back on track:

I don't have any problem with using a retread QB as a "keep the seat warm" solution, until the team finds its young franchise QB...as long as I see the team is actively trying to draft/sign/develop that franchise QB. In the meantime, let's make sure we build up a strong enough "overall team" so that when the future franchise QB does arrive, he doesn't get his ass traumatically kicked out there.

[tepop84]

Any time you focus on a single metric to judge a player, even the mighty-mighty "any/a" panacea, you miss out on all the details that provide both relativity and context, making any judgment of that player a "general estimate" at best. 

It isn't a single metric. passing yards is a single metric, tds is a single metric.  any/a incorporates all the important single metrics.

[Pappy13]

Any time you focus on a single metric to judge a player, even the mighty-mighty "any/a" panacea, you miss out on all the details that provide both relativity and context, making any judgment of that player a "general estimate" at best.

Especially when you subjectively use a multiplier to try to quantify how "good" or "bad" a certain statistic is compared to the others.  If you were to manipulate those multipliers you would get a completely different list.  What makes this one particular formula any better or worse for determining QB effeciency than any other?