Chicago Car Salesman Fired for Wearing Packers Tie to Work

[StL FinFan]

I think it was not a smart move on his part, but unless he was violating a dress code, he had the right to wear it, imo.  I doubt he would have sold any cars that day. 

I was just wondering what you all thought about this.  Who was in the wrong here?  I think it was a little bit of both.

http://www.stltoday.com/news/weird-news/article_cd7abe8b-60da-580c-a509-be58b2d13e31.html

[tepop84]

I think it was not a smart move on his part, but unless he was violating a dress code, he had the right to wear it, imo.  I doubt he would have sold any cars that day. 

I was just wondering what you all thought about this.  Who was in the wrong here?  I think it was a little bit of both.

http://www.stltoday.com/news/weird-news/article_cd7abe8b-60da-580c-a509-be58b2d13e31.html

The salesman is a fucking idiot.

Here is the article I read http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Chicago-man-wears-Packers-tie-to-work-is-prompt?urn=nfl-311976

[MaineDolFan]

Agreed.

Selling = creating a relationship.  How do you expect to create a relationship in an enviroment where people already don't trust you (car salesman) pulling a stunt like this.  The dealership did the right thing.  If the dealership lost one customer due to this, that was one too many.

[Frimp]

I wear a Dolphins lanyard with my keys on it all the time. But I would never risk my job over it. I'd take it off if the boss told me to

[Sunstroke]

Yeah, there's a difference between wearing the tie to show respect to your deceased grandma, and stubbornly refusing to take it off until they fire you.

What a maroon...

[Phishfan]

Probably not the smartest move, but anyone who makes a decision on buying a car based on the man's tie is a bigger dumbass.

[CF DolFan]

I bet he makes out ok. Somewhere there is a rich Packer fan that will hook him up.

[Dave Gray]

On top of it, since the dealership had done work for the Bears before, it might be sullying their brand.  Maybe that's a stretch.  I didn't read the article, but he should've been given the opportunity to take off the tie.

[tepop84]

On top of it, since the dealership had done work for the Bears before, it might be sullying their brand.  Maybe that's a stretch.  I didn't read the article, but he should've been given the opportunity to take off the tie.

he was told to twice.

[masterfins]

Stupid to fire him over it, should've just sent him home without pay.  Stupider (if that's a word) not to take it off when asked to by the boss.  The guy was probably hurting his own commissions by wearing the tie in the first place.  Unless the guy was gonna wear the tie regularly, I think they both made a mountain out of a molehill.

[Dave Gray]

Stupid to fire him over it, should've just sent him home without pay.  Stupider (if that's a word) not to take it off when asked to by the boss.  The guy was probably hurting his own commissions by wearing the tie in the first place.  Unless the guy was gonna wear the tie regularly, I think they both made a mountain out of a molehill.

Sending home people without pay doesn't get you to sell cars, though.  You need your employees to do what you say or else your business suffers.  If he was asked to remove his tie (and both parties knew that it was a serious request) and he refused, you got to cut him loose.  It's insubordination.

[AZ Fins Fan 55]

I agree with most that this guy was a moron. He should have removed it after being asked. You want to take it in to rib your buddies fine but it should not cause a distraction or hurt business. Wear it into the office for a little while to harass your friends then have a back-up tie you could change into and this is a non story!!!!

[tepop84]

Sending home people without pay doesn't get you to sell cars, though.  You need your employees to do what you say or else your business suffers.  If he was asked to remove his tie (and both parties knew that it was a serious request) and he refused, you got to cut him loose.  It's insubordination.

So the guy is incompetant.

[masterfins]

Sending home people without pay doesn't get you to sell cars, though.  You need your employees to do what you say or else your business suffers.  If he was asked to remove his tie (and both parties knew that it was a serious request) and he refused, you got to cut him loose.  It's insubordination.

I agree it is insuborordination, that's why I said to send him home.  That way both sides have some time to cool off; I don't think it's a fireable offense unless the action is repeated by the employee.  The guy was obviously a decent salesman, in that he sold 14 cars the prior month, but made a bad decision in the moment not to take the tie off immediately.  I think most people can think back in their job histories and think of stupid things they did, but weren't fired for it.  If he came back the next day wearing the tie then I would agree with firing him.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

I read he already has a job at another dealership.

Both dealerships will make out over the publicity from this.  Bear fans will flock to the dealership that fired him, fans of the little guy, 1st amendment and the few packers fans in the area will head to the new place. 

I complete agree with dealership that fired him to protect brand image (they have a marketing deal with the Bears) as a business and the standards set for employees.

I however, remain in firm support of the New Orleans student who was sent home from school for wearing a Colts jersey on a day everyone else was wearing Saints clothes the friday before last years SB.  That was a blantant abuse of power on behalf of the school.