Girls HS Basketball Game Final Score: 108-3

[CF DolFan]

This comes up every once in a while. Personally I think the right answer is different for different situations but in the end, I think the winning team could have handled this much better.


http://www.slamonline.com/online/news-rumors/other-news/2011/01/hs-game-final-score-108-3/

The Christian Heritage vs. West Ridge Academy girls high school game in Utah that took place last week has been circulating the airwaves after Christian Heritage’s 108-3 blowout win has sparked a controversial outcry by many who feel that they ran up the scoreboard on their opponents and demonstrated poor sportsmanship.

Christian Heritage scored 28 points in each of the first three quarters, while West Ridge finally got on the scoreboard in the fourth. It’s important to note that Christian Heritage didn’t use full-court press and couldn’t pull all its starters out since the team only had nine players.

The head coach from the winning team, Rob McGill, defended the decision of having his team play “straight up” the entire game with ABC 4 Salt Lake City.

“I have been on the other side of this equation,” said McGill. “It was very insulting when teams slowed the ball down and just passed it around. That’s why I’d rather have a team play me straight up, and that’s why I played them straight up. Because I didn’t want to taunt them, I didn’t want to embarrass them, I didn’t want them to think we could do whatever we want.”

As for the loosing side, West Ridge athletic director Jaime Keefer told ABC they did not feel offended. “They’ve apologized, and we’ve moved on,” said Keefer. “We know they’re good people and they should be proud of their team. There are no hard feelings at all.”

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

If anyone is to blame for this it is the regional athletic directors. 

Why were these two teams playing each other in the first place? 

One belongs in a division I and playing against other good teams the other belongs in division III where they can play other teams that also aren't very good. 

[tepop84]

If anyone is to blame for this it is the regional athletic directors. 

Why were these two teams playing each other in the first place? 

One belongs in a division I and playing against other good teams the other belongs in division III where they can play other teams that also aren't very good. 

I would guess there aren't that many schools to divide it into 3 division in utah.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

I would guess there aren't that many schools to divide it into 3 division in utah.

I am willing to bet there are  more than 3 divisions but they are divided up based on stupid criteria. 

Such as:
One division for large public schools
One division for medium sized public schools
One division for small sized public schools
One division for Catholic schools
Two divisions for Mormons schools divided up based on whether the school follows fundamentalist or liberal thinking with in the church of LDS.
One division for Regilious schools not in the above groups
One division for non-religious private schools.

A much better system would lump every one together regardless if private or public, big or small.  Then break them up based on ability. 

Lets say dividing in four gets you good size divisions.  So now you have 4 divisions each with 12 schools. 

The 1st place and 2nd place team in division II the following year plays in division I.  The 11th and 12th place teams in division I play in division II the following year.  Same process for the division II-III and III-IV. 

 

[SportsChick]

Florida schools are divided by size, so you can have a really good small school playing a not so really good small school and they're still in the same division (1A, 1B, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6)

[tepop84]

Florida schools are divided by size, so you can have a really good small school playing a not so really good small school and they're still in the same division (1A, 1B, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6)

Utah has a population density of 27.2people/sq.mile, ranked 41st in the us. They likely don't have enough high schools to divide into divisions.

[SportsChick]

that would be incorrect. They have 137 schools classified into 5 divisions

http://www.uhsaa.org/new/

that link, then about UHSAA and then Regions & Classifications. It's a PDF

[tepop84]

that would be incorrect. They have 137 schools classified into 5 divisions

http://www.uhsaa.org/new/

that link, then about UHSAA and then Regions & Classifications. It's a PDF

137 schools isn't a lot.  where i live, in my state the schools are in 4 divisions, but my section has all the schools play each other, regardless of division. Thats because there are only like 10 schools in a 45 mile radius.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

that would be incorrect. They have 137 schools classified into 5 divisions

http://www.uhsaa.org/new/

that link, then about UHSAA and then Regions & Classifications. It's a PDF

And both these schools where in the 1A division which means it is either the crap division or the top division and 5A is the other end.  One of these teams don't belong there.  Probably determined by the size of the school not the strength of the sports program.  The entire school is classified as 1A, 2A, 3A, 4A, 5A not sport by sport.  I think 1A is probably the small ones and 5A is the biggest cause 5A is listed first.

If Utah wants to get rid of these types of scores they need to do what I suggested move up the really good teams and move down the really bad ones on a sport by sport basis. So you might have a school with a 5A girls basketball team and a 1A football team.   

[CF DolFan]

Hoodie ... I think the fact it is a Christian school or moreso, a private school, that it breaks the rules. We have several small private schools that put up excellent teams. Especially in a sport like soccer, volleyball, and cheerleading where it costs money to get trained. The size of the school realy has no bearing.

[StL FinFan]

Our private schools are mostly in a league for private schools.  Since they can recruit and offer scholarships as well as having more money than public schools, it makes sense, because their teams are better.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Hoodie ... I think the fact it is a Christian school or moreso, a private school, that it breaks the rules. We have several small private schools that put up excellent teams. Especially in a sport like soccer, volleyball, and cheerleading where it costs money to get trained. The size of the school realy has no bearing.

Exactly....one small private school that gives scholarships to athletes gets stuck in the same division as a small private school whose attitude is "academics first, academics last, academics always the sports teams are just a diversion." And you get scores like 108 - 3, without the 108 really trying.   

My solution would solve all that within a couple of years. 

[MikeO]

But the pregame line was West Ridge was +106 so if you took the points, you won! lol lol

[Pappy13]

If Utah wants to get rid of these types of scores they need to do what I suggested move up the really good teams and move down the really bad ones on a sport by sport basis. So you might have a school with a 5A girls basketball team and a 1A football team.   

The problem is that you'd have to do this practically every year.  Nobody is gonna do this.  It's a logistical nightmare even if you do it only every 5 years or so.

There should be a mercy rule in Basketball just like there is in Baseball.  If you're losing by 50 at halftime or by 75 at the end of the 3rd quarter, the game is over.  That doesn't really fix the problem, but it does prevent 108-3 final scores.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

The problem is that you'd have to do this practically every year.  Nobody is gonna do this.  It's a logistical nightmare even if you do it only every 5 years or so.

Not just practically every year.  But every year.  Top two teams in the division move up, bottom 2 move down.  Not really that hard.  My nephews soccer and little league baseball team does this and it never causes logistical nightmares because it is the designed as a unified process.