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Question: They are the all-time receiving yards leaders in Dolphins history. Pick the worst one out of this sorry bunch.
Mark Duper (1982-92), 8,869 Yards, 17.4 per catch
Mark Clayton (1983-92), 8,643 Yards, 15.7 per catch
Nat Moore (1974-86), 7,547 Yards, 14.8 per catch
Chris Chambers (2001-07), 5,688 Yards, 14.0 per catch
O.J. McDuffie (1993-00), 5,074 Yards, 12.2 per catch
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« Reply #15 on: February 10, 2011, 04:31:46 pm »

 Wouldn't lay out for a ball and often stepped out of bounds rather than tap his toes.  

I have to disagree here. Chambers always seemed to be going up in the air or laying out on a sideline. He made those types of catches. He would drop the routine ones though.
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« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2011, 04:34:17 pm »

Keep in mind that you're voting for career Dolphins leaders in receiving yards here. I'm sure Ted Ginn Jr. isn't cracking the top 25 all-time.

Wrong.  #22. 
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« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2011, 08:51:16 am »

Wrong.  #22. 

Wow. Ted fucking Ginn is the 22nd all-time leader in Dolphins history in yards.

That's fucking sad.
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« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2011, 09:02:45 am »

Someone Google for me: Where is a guy like Orande Gadsden on this list?
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« Reply #19 on: February 11, 2011, 09:37:35 am »

^^^^ I don't think he was a team leader in yardage. He just made the tough big catches when you needed him to.
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« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2011, 09:42:46 am »

Wow. Ted fucking Ginn is the 22nd all-time leader in Dolphins history in yards.

That's fucking sad.

Ted did spend a few seasons in Miami so he has longevity that some others didn't. FYI Brandon Marshall is only 650 yards behind him after one season and is #43 so Ginn will be dropping a long way once we have some other receivers play as many games.
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« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2011, 09:43:51 am »

Someone Google for me: Where is a guy like Orande Gadsden on this list?

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« Reply #22 on: February 11, 2011, 10:54:52 am »

I have to disagree here. Chambers always seemed to be going up in the air or laying out on a sideline. He made those types of catches. He would drop the routine ones though.
He would go up for a ball and make a circus catch, but I never once saw him try to lay out on a sideline route and tap his toes.  He would always catch the ball in full stride and one foot would be out of bounds.  He must have done that at least a dozen times in his career.  Drove me nuts.
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« Reply #23 on: February 11, 2011, 11:06:50 am »

He would go up for a ball and make a circus catch, but I never once saw him try to lay out on a sideline route and tap his toes.  He would always catch the ball in full stride and one foot would be out of bounds.  He must have done that at least a dozen times in his career.  Drove me nuts.

There is no chance that mcduffie is better than chambers. 

yards, chambers leads 5688 to 5074 (chambers also has 355 rushing yards compared to 49 for mcduffie)
tds, chambers leads 43 to 29
fumbles chambers leads 11 to 19
ypc - chambers

I guess mcduffie had 10 more receptions, so i guess that is a plus for him

I think your memory is tainted a little.
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« Reply #24 on: February 11, 2011, 12:09:36 pm »

Maybe he didn't do it a lot, but I clearly remember Chris Chambers was the player that had me learn about the rule of keeping the ball tucked all the way through your motion, even if you are out of bounds. I screamed at the TV about that non-catch for a full quarter I bet. Maybe that has my mind tainted a bit.
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« Reply #25 on: February 11, 2011, 12:10:48 pm »

There is no chance that mcduffie is better than chambers.  
I didn't say that McDuffie was better than Chambers, I said I'd rather have McDuffie than Chambers.

Chambers was a physical specimin.  His jumping ability made him play larger and faster than his size.  However he used about 90% of his ability.  He could have and should have been even better than he was.

McDuffie didn't have as much physical ability as Chambers, but he utilized it much better.  He gave 110% on every play.  He played hurt his last year and effectively cut short his career because he continued to play on a toe that he shouldn't have.  The doctors told him that he couldn't hurt the toe anymore by playing on it so he did and it cost him the rest of his career.  He recently won a lawsuit against the Dolphins because of it.  There's no question in my mind that McDuffie would have played several more years for the Dolphins and been extremely productive if the doctors would have treated his toe properly.  So while his numbers with the Dolphins aren't better than Chambers, they could have and should have been better if he was treated properly.

I've played enough sports myself to have seen guys with tremendous ability that didn't give a damn about the team and only cared about their own stats and I've also seen guys with less ability run through a brick wall for a coach.  Personally I'll take the 2nd guy every time and twice on Sunday's.
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« Reply #26 on: February 11, 2011, 12:14:40 pm »

I didn't say that McDuffie was better than Chambers, I said I'd rather have McDuffie than Chambers.


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« Reply #27 on: February 11, 2011, 12:20:13 pm »

I didn't say that McDuffie was better than Chambers, I said I'd rather have McDuffie than Chambers.

Chambers was a physical specimin.  His jumping ability made him play larger and faster than his size.  However he used about 90% of his ability.  He could have and should have been even better than he was.

McDuffie didn't have as much physical ability as Chambers, but he utilized it much better.  He gave 110% on every play.  He played hurt his last year and effectively cut short his career because he continued to play on a toe that he shouldn't have.  The doctors told him that he couldn't hurt the toe anymore by playing on it so he did and it cost him the rest of his career.  He recently won a lawsuit against the Dolphins because of it.  There's no question in my mind that McDuffie would have played several more years for the Dolphins and been extremely productive if the doctors would have treated his toe properly.  So while his numbers with the Dolphins aren't better than Chambers, they could have and should have been better if he was treated properly.

I've played enough sports myself to have seen guys with tremendous ability that didn't give a damn about the team and only cared about their own stats and I've also seen guys with less ability run through a brick wall for a coach.  Personally I'll take the 2nd guy every time and twice on Sunday's.

Mcduffie was on the dolphins for more years than chambers, yet his numbers weren't better.  so basically mcduffie gave 110% (which is one of the dumbest fucking cliches there is) and chambers only gave 90%, but chambers was still a lot better than mcduffie. lol. would you rather have 110% of $1 or 90% of $2?
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« Reply #28 on: February 11, 2011, 12:37:40 pm »

Mcduffie was on the dolphins for more years than chambers, yet his numbers weren't better.  so basically mcduffie gave 110% (which is one of the dumbest fucking cliches there is) and chambers only gave 90%, but chambers was still a lot better than mcduffie. lol. would you rather have 110% of $1 or 90% of $2?
McDuffie started 12 fewer games than Chambers, so he actually caught more passes per start, and had more yardarge per start.  Chambers caught more TD's per start.  Production wise they were fairly close.

And like I said McDuffie's career was cut short by injury.  I would have loved to have seen McDuffie and Chambers on the field together.  McDuffie could have taught him a thing or 2.
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« Reply #29 on: February 11, 2011, 01:32:01 pm »

McDuffie started 12 fewer games than Chambers, so he actually caught more passes per start, and had more yardarge per start.  Chambers caught more TD's per start.  Production wise they were fairly close.

And like I said McDuffie's career was cut short by injury.  I would have loved to have seen McDuffie and Chambers on the field together.  McDuffie could have taught him a thing or 2.

mcduffie wasn't good enough to start, and that is a knock on chambers?  also, he probably didn't have more yardage per start, unless you want to add all the yardage that he accumulated in non starts and include it.  also, let's also gloss over the fact of dan marino vs. jay fiedler throwing the ball, and of course chambers 355 yards rushing.
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