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« on: April 12, 2011, 05:56:51 pm »
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81f3719e/article/parcells-could-see-fins-taking-ryan-in-08-regrets-white-pick?module=HP_headlines

ya think!! So glad Parcells is gone!
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« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2011, 06:52:31 pm »
Ryan cerrtainly is the most successful QB drafted in the last couple years, but I'm not going to be upset over the fact the Fins drafted a three time Pro Bowl selection.  No telling how successful Ryan would have been on the Fins with their coaching and O-Line.
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« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2011, 08:21:44 pm »
Agreed, not to mention that Ryan wasn't really a slam dunk selection for the top of the draft. I remember there being a lot of doubts over whether or not he would've even amounted to anything in the NFL, let alone be a star. The hype for him was similar to the hype Jake Locker is getting now, only this year there are a lot more QB options pushing Jake to the middle of the draft instead of Top 3.

No regrets taking Long though.
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« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2011, 08:45:10 pm »

Ah yes, the good old "who should we have drafted if we knew then what we know now" game...
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« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2011, 10:19:50 am »
Bill Parcells= Captain Hindsight.
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« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2011, 11:22:17 am »
In other news Parcells also said that he regrets not taking Ricky Watters in 1991.

I am with Sunstroke on this one. 
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« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2011, 03:26:21 pm »
gee thanks parcells...

i love jake long, but franchise qb > franchise lt
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« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2011, 05:36:19 pm »
Quote from: masterfins on April 12, 2011, 06:52:31 pm
Ryan cerrtainly is the most successful QB drafted in the last couple years, but I'm not going to be upset over the fact the Fins drafted a three time Pro Bowl selection.  No telling how successful Ryan would have been on the Fins with their coaching and O-Line.
Joe Flacco has been more successful than Matt Ryan.  If we're going to redo the draft, instead of wishing for Ryan, we should wish that Miami traded the Henne and Merling picks to BAL so we could pick Flacco (the point value works out).
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« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2011, 10:01:34 pm »
^^^^ agreed 1000%



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« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2011, 02:57:02 am »
The thing I hae most about the "hindsight drafting" is that it assumes all things are equal, our OL was terrible hence the need for the upgrade at LT, if you put Matt Ryan behind that OL he could just have easilly become the next David Carr or JP Losman.
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« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2011, 07:56:33 am »
Here is a thought ... maybe we should have taken someone else other than Parcells? I seriously don't think he did anything for us that we couldn't have done without him. Wayne would have probably stood behind Cameron one more year but ultimately we would propbably be in similar shape.
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« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2011, 02:44:25 am »
What is this love affair with Matt Ryan bullshit?  What have the Falcons won lately? 

The guy never has to throw the ball more than 5 yards, his offensive coordinator is Mike Mullarkey (hmm where have I heard that name before?) and like most average or slightly above average quarterbacks, once you hit him a few times, suddenly he stops playing all that great. 

If we didn't draft Jake Long, we'd be going through quarterbacks even more than we are now.  Remember the non-stop revolving door we've had at LT pretty much since Mark Dixon retired? So Matt Ryan would have two blown out knees, a broken leg and would be teaching gym somewhere in Mass at this point.  He'd be another David Klingler.  WOO HOO let's jump in the time machine and draft Matt Ryan.
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« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2011, 05:35:19 am »
Quote from: BigDaddyFin on April 28, 2011, 02:44:25 am
What is this love affair with Matt Ryan bullshit?  What have the Falcons won lately? 


He has lost like 3 or 4 games at home in his NFL career. And he had his team as the #1 seed in teh NFC. In only 3 short NFL years thats pretty damn good!! Especially since he was drafted by a god awful team
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« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2011, 09:03:30 am »
There is probably no other position on the field in which you have less of a chance of predicting future success based on college performance than QB.  Sure, there have been plenty of 1st round QB successes.  But there have been a ton of highly drafted QBs who were busts.  And many mid round QBs who have gone on to very successful.  Brady comes to mind.  So yeah, I agree with the guys who said that Parcells is really playing the hindsight game.
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« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2011, 10:24:23 am »
Quote from: MikeO on April 28, 2011, 05:35:19 am
He has lost like 3 or 4 games at home in his NFL career. And he had his team as the #1 seed in teh NFC. In only 3 short NFL years thats pretty damn good!! Especially since he was drafted by a god awful team
And its all Matt Ryan?  Nothing to do with Michael Turner or Roddy White or any of the horses on defense?  Right...
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