Cold Hard Football Facts rates the drafts 2001-2010 - Fins get a D

[Spider-Dan]

In that case:

2009- V. Davis, S.Smith, B. Hartline, C. Clemons
2008- J. Long, C. Henne, K. Langford
2007- S. Satele, P. Soliai, B. Fields
2006- bust
2005- R. Brown, C. Crowder
2004- V. Carey, R. Hadnot
2003- Y. Bell
2002- R. McMichael
2001- C. Chambers, M. Greenwood

If a player was on the team for 3+ years (or are still on current roster) and started more than half their games, they made this list.  The exception is Satele, who started every game here for two years, was traded, and went on to start at his new team (which I do not consider a bust); contrast The Ginn Family, who does not start in SF.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

The later third of the decade has been better than the earlier part.  The grade was for the whole decade. 

[masterfins]

All 3 of them? I admire your positivity, but unless you are a total homer, there's no way that anybody can look at 2011 as a great draft unless you take into consideration draft position. Miami had a mid first, low 2nd and mid 4th round pick and then 3 in the 6th and 7th rounds. Unless one of those 6 or 7th rounds turns out to be the draft equivalent of Tom Brady, at BEST Miami can hope for 3 starters out of this draft and I don't see that happening. Only Pouncey really is considered pretty close to can't miss.

Well, if your point is that it wasn't a good draft for Miami because they didn't have five picks in the first five rounds, I'd have to agree with you.  However, if you are just being a sad sally knocking the players that were picked then I'd refer you to my original post.

[Pappy13]

You got one from last year.  Koa Misi.  I consider a starter someone who started more than half the games in the season not a guy who was a backup for most games but started one game cause the player he backed up was injured.

John Jerry started 10 games for Miami last year and Odrick started game 1 before he was injured and out for the year. I expect both Jerry and Odrick will start this year.  Along with Misi that's 3 starters from last year's draft and that's not counting Nolan Carroll's and Reshad Jones' contribution.  Miami might very well have picked up 3 or 4 starters along with a couple more contributor's in last year's draft.

[Pappy13]

Well, if your point is that it wasn't a good draft for Miami because they didn't have five picks in the first five rounds, I'd have to agree with you. However, if you are just being a sad sally knocking the players that were picked then I'd refer you to my original post.

Correct. I'm actually NOT knocking the players that were picked at all. I'm knocking the fact that we ONLY had 3 picks in the first 5 rounds of the draft. That's a VERY small sampling. Pretty much all 3 picks had better be at least decent or one of the lower round picks that almost never pan out had better be at least decent or it's going to be a pretty weak draft class, pretty much on par with what we did in the first half of the decade and were given a grade of D for.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

^^^ you do have a point...

In the 10 years....

Miami had  8 first round picks.
10 2nd round
11 3rd
7 4th
11 5th
14 6th
and
15 7th

So the Dolphins either are trading down more than BB (particularly out of te 4th round), or are using high draft picks to acquire players and trading away players for low draft picks.   

[bsfins]

Stuff like this IMO,reflects on the need for having a stable front office,and not going through coaches (front office people) every few years.Wannstedt +Rick Speilman,Speilman+Bates,Saban+Mueller,Mueller+Cameron,Parcells+Ireland+Sparano,Ireland+Sparano...

[EKnight]

Hoodie- While your comment about Misi being the only starter is accurate, I can't look at it in that "black and white" of terms, when you consider that a second round pick was traded for Marshall, and Edds and Odrick were both hurt. Both of those guys could be productive starters this season (if not bothm then at least Odrick). That's three starting bodies from the draft, plus Edds if he doesn't. -EK

[Phishfan]

and Edds and Odrick were both hurt. Both of those guys could be productive starters this season (if not bothm then at least Odrick). That's three starting bodies from the draft, plus Edds if he doesn't. -EK

Edds isn't going to beat out Misi or Wake I don't beleive. Where is he going to start?

[EKnight]

That's why I said 3, and Edds as a possible, not a for sure. FWIW, though I wouldn't mind seeing him get a shot at Crowder's spot. -EK

[Phishfan]

That is what can be called fuzzy math though. Marshall was a trade. There isn't a law set in stone saying you can't count him as part of that draft, but in my world I don't. The way I see it, we got one possibly two starters (our line was good enough Odrick may be in the rotation but not start) with an outside shot at a three.

I don't think Edds has ever played inside (at least not in college) so maybe he has those skills, maybe not. At this stage I doubt he has the instincts though.

[EKnight]

I have no problem with that. Call it fuzzy math if you want, but I think it severly oversimplifies things to say, "All Miami got out of that draft was Misi, so it's a poor draft." -EK

[Pappy13]

You both are forgetting about John Jerry who started 10 games for Miami. You are also forgetting about Reshad Jones who started 2 games and Nolan Carroll who started 1.

There are potentially 6 players that will make significant contributions in 2011 from the 2010 draft. Odrick, Misi, Jerry, Edds, Carroll and Jones. In my humble opinion 2010 will come to be looked at as a terrific draft class.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

I have no problem with that. Call it fuzzy math if you want, but I think it severly oversimplifies things to say, "All Miami got out of that draft was Misi, so it's a poor draft." -EK

I didn't say that.

That was the same oversimplification people gave to NE in the 2007 draft which yielded two pro-bowl WR - a 2nd for Welker and a 4th for Moss.  

The CHFF article stayed away from trades, FA, etc in their analysis.  SD got credited for drafting pro-bowlers Eli Manning and Drew Brees.  

[EKnight]

I'm cool with that. It's yet another reason why some of these stats guys need to get out more. -EK