More Wildcat in 2011?

[Tenshot13]

I predict we see the Tim Tebow jump pass from Thomas at least once this season.

[BigDaddyFin]

if you have the right personel for it, then yeah go for it.  It's about the only thing Ronnie Brown does really well.  The problem isn't so much that we use it occasionally.  The problem is that while it's generally well executed, they only ever run 2 plays out of it in the same directon.  Look at the first game we ran it.  They generally ran it to the right, but also ran it to the left.  There was a reverse they used out of it a couple times and a halfback pass. 

The other thing I seemed to notice is they only really used it primarily at midfield.  It seems the perfect place to run it is when you're backed up behind your own 20 or in a goal to go situation. 

I'm not advocating that we run a whole offense out of it, but 5-10 plays to mix up a defense over the course of a whole game wouldn't hurt.  Just make sure they're not all run to the right side.

[phinphan]

I am surprised not one person has mentioned the fact that the wild cat killed henne .
I watched A lot of games  where Chad had great drives from our 5 to 20 yard line.
He moved our offense down the field , He would make it to about the 40 and they would yank him out and throw in the wildcat witch resulted in a 3rd and 10 to a third and twenty. Then they would shove him back in GO DO SOMETHING .
 My prediction is we will give up a second round pick and A GREAT  player to the pats
To bring in mallet who will be beaten out by Henne

[BigDaddyFin]

^^^
Kind of what I was getting at with using it more as a goal to go or backed up from your own endzone package, but your point is well taken. 

I've often wondered myself if taking Henne in and out of the game like that breaks his momentum and I got to thinking about when Pennington ran it but Pennington would stay on the field and flank out as a reciever.  Not the same as getting the snap yourself, but still keeps you in the flow of the game. 

[dolfan13]

the wildcat killed henne... the oline killed henne... brandon marshall killed henne... the coaches killed henne... lack of running game killed henne


good god, by the time u guys realize the only person responsible for killing henne is henne and his lack of nfl quarterback talent, the dolphins will be stuck rebuilding this entire team all over again.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

The wildcat was a lot more effective when the QB stays in the game, which is what Mia did in 2008.  When you pull the QB as the dolphins have been doing ever since or the Jets do when they take out Sanchez and send in Smith there is no surprise. 

[masterfins]

If you are going to pull the QB, the RB has to actually complete a pass on occasion to keep the defense honest.  That wasn't done last year.

[Pappy13]

I think too much is being made of the wildcat last year. Based on the stats, it neither helped nor hindered Miami much last year.

Miami lined up in the wildcat a total of 41 times. 39 were runs which netted 86 yards for a 2.2 yard average. 2 were passes, both incomplete.

That's a pretty poor average, but it didn't exactly prevent Miami from making the playoffs. If you break it down by opponent, we usually only ran it once or twice a game unless we had a bit of success with it. For example we used it 8 times versus the raiders, 8 runs for 24 yards and we used it 6 times versus the Jets (away) 5 runs for 15 yards and 1 incomplete pass. That's a 3 yard average running the ball in both of those games which isn't bad and we actually won both of those games.

Edit: Oops, I goofed. Those numbers above are only for Ronnie, I forgot to add in Ricky's numbers. Ricky actually ran the ball 12 times out of the wildcat for 92 yards for a healthy 7.6 yards per carry.

Adding both Ricky and Ronnie's numbers together you get 51 carries for 178 yards or 3.5 yards per carry.

[badger6]

the wildcat killed henne... the oline killed henne... brandon marshall killed henne... the coaches killed henne... lack of running game killed henne


good god, by the time u guys realize the only person responsible for killing henne is henne and his lack of nfl quarterback talent, the dolphins will be stuck rebuilding this entire team all over again.

Winner, winner, chicken dinner. Buy this man a beer. He gets it

[badger6]

The wildcat was a lot more effective when the QB stays in the game, which is what Mia did in 2008.  When you pull the QB as the dolphins have been doing ever since or the Jets do when they take out Sanchez and send in Smith there is no surprise. 

That was my point. If they are going to run the wildcat it would be in their best interest to keep Thigpen. Unlike Henne, he is a threat to run and pass. The D would have to be somewhat honest with Thigpen (or someone mobile that can run and pass) instead of pinning their ears back and steamrolling Henne

[MikeO]

That was my point. If they are going to run the wildcat it would be in their best interest to keep Thigpen. Unlike Henne, he is a threat to run and pass. The D would have to be somewhat honest with Thigpen (or someone mobile that can run and pass) instead of pinning their ears back and steamrolling Henne

Thigpen is a terrible QB. Worse than Henne. There is no offense on the face of the earth that makes him a quality QB.

[badger6]

Thigpen is a terrible QB. Worse than Henne. There is no offense on the face of the earth that makes him a quality QB.

Although I value your opinion, I have to respectfully disagree. Especially if the two were expected to be involved in the wildcat.

[EDGECRUSHER]

I have no problem with the Wildcat and feel it can be effective. The issue has always been our playcalling with it. It is always a snap to the RB and then a run right up the middle. No variation. To make matters worse, we seem to have used this during successful drives and it just ruins the flow.

[MikeO]

Although I value your opinion, I have to respectfully disagree. Especially if the two were expected to be involved in the wildcat.

Wildcat or not, you still have to be able to play and make plays. Thigpen has proven he is not capable of playing at an NFL level

[badger6]

Wildcat or not, you still have to be able to play and make plays. Thigpen has proven he is not capable of playing at an NFL level

Just like Henne hasn't proven himself. In the wildcat I would rather have Thigpen. If we would just get a REAL QB we wouldn't have to worry about it.