Mike Simms Walker WANTS to play for Fins

[badger6]

Yeah, I posted in another thread that I'd take MikeO and everyone that gets into it with him out on my boat one of these days.  We'll load up some fishing lines, throw some Landsharks on ice, and chill for the day.  The one rule is that anyone who personally attacks anyone else will have to swim back to shore.

Good luck with that one, you would probably need to hire a security crew. I pretty sure that he wouldn't go anyhow. I wonder if his last name is "Hoffa" ? ha ha.

Anyhow, back to topic. IMO, If we are going to get anywhere in our division this year, we do need a receiver or two. If not this guy, who do we get ? And like I said earlier, you never know what's gonna happen with Marshall.

[Pappy13]

Criticizing, name calling...its not a positive atmosphere and it creates a lockeroom cancer!!

A 1 time critical comment does not make a lockeroom cancer.  A cancer is consistently throwing people under the bus. Ricky did it one time as far as I know. Ricky is normally an excellent teammate and has built up his reputation in the locker room. That doesn't just all go out the window because of 1 comment.

[MikeO]

A 1 time critical comment does not make a lockeroom cancer.  A cancer is consistently throwing people under the bus. Ricky did it one time as far as I know. Ricky is normally an excellent teammate and has built up his reputation in the locker room. That doesn't just all go out the window because of 1 comment.

1) All it does take is one comment to become a cancer.

2) Combine the 1 comment with all of the failed drug tests, suspensions, and quitting on your team and its more than a one time incident with this clown

[Spider-Dan]

MikeO, after all of the "failed drug tests, suspensions, and quitting on his team," Ricky was still one of the most popular players in the clubhouse over the last two years.  That does not sound like someone that is 1 incident away from his last straw.

[MikeO]

MikeO, after all of the "failed drug tests, suspensions, and quitting on his team," Ricky was still one of the most popular players in the clubhouse over the last two years.  That does not sound like someone that is 1 incident away from his last straw.

I think his last straw happened the monday after Week 17 last year.

[dolfan13]

badger brought up an interesting point too, that being marshall kinda being more of a cancer now for this team than ricky ever was/is.

i'd say, unfortunately given the personality of this team being "ground and pound", ricky has a role on this team where marshall might be expendable. simms walker could be an adequate fill-in with the style of offense this team plays. you could see marhsall not being on this team more so than ricky at this point.

[MikeO]

badger brought up an interesting point too, that being marshall kinda being more of a cancer now for this team than ricky ever was/is.

i'd say, unfortunately given the personality of this team being "ground and pound", ricky has a role on this team where marshall might be expendable. simms walker could be an adequate fill-in with the style of offense this team plays. you could see marhsall not being on this team more so than ricky at this point.

Consdiering Marshall is under contract and Ricky isn't, I disagree. No need for a bad team which is rebuilding to re-sign a  34 year old RB who badmouthed the QB and coaches. No need for it. I can find a back-up RB a lot younger and cheaper with less drama.

I'm no big Marshall fan, and the 30 day window when the offseason begins where Miami can cut him and NOT take a serious cap hit I would seriously considering just flat out releasing the ticking time bomb of Marshall himself for so many reasons. One salary cap, two he underachieved last year, three he is one strike away from a one year suspension, four he has had one too many off the field incidents for my liking. This last one, his fault or not, has shown a new team and enviorment hasn't changed anything with him.

But if I had to predict, Marshall will be on Miami next year and Ricky won't. And if we keep Ricky...its a HUGE mistake on many levels!

[dolfan13]

im not saying this because i agree with it, but...

this organization is the definition of conservative. the style on offense going into next year is going to be circa 1970's football, "ground and pound". ricky is cheap, knows the system, stays relatively healthy, and has been successful in it. at this point he would be their insurance policy. much like bringing in pennington last year again.

they will explore the market on a 3rd down change of pace back to hopefully compliment the rookie. but if the rook isn't up to speed, and they need help, their entire offensive philosophy is dependent on someone like ricky to execute. he would provide that insurance.

in marshall's case, if they could sign someone that gives them similar traits like simms walker, i could see him being expendable.


again not that i agree with the philosophy, but this is the dolphins we are talking about. the word conservative in the dictionary used to have a pic of wanny next to it, now has ireland/sparano. you have to try and think like them as opposed to thinking logically from a 2011 style of nfl football.

[MikeO]

Lex Hilliard can do everything Ricky does at this point in his career at 1/5th the cost and is much younger.

[badger6]

Lex Hilliard can do everything Ricky does at this point in his career at 1/5th the cost and is much younger.

Sure he can. And the world ended yesterday too, didn't you hear ?

[Spider-Dan]

Um, Hilliard had the opportunity to show what he could do in '09 after Ronnie went down.

He was so good (ahem) that we basically went to Ricky for the entire run offense (which is why Ricky ended up with over 1000 yards, setting a record in the process).  To repeat: 25-year-old Lex Hilliard could not beat 32-year-old Ricky Williams when they were in direct competition less than two years ago.

I don't understand why Hilliard is even on the team.

[MikeO]

Um, Hilliard had the opportunity to show what he could do in '09 after Ronnie went down.

He was so good (ahem) that we basically went to Ricky for the entire run offense (which is why Ricky ended up with over 1000 yards, setting a record in the process).  To repeat: 25-year-old Lex Hilliard could not beat 32-year-old Ricky Williams when they were in direct competition less than two years ago.

I don't understand why Hilliard is even on the team.

because the 09' preseason and season was the be all and end all of everything?!?! 

[Spider-Dan]

What does preseason have to do with anything?

The last time Hilliard and Ricky competed for a starting job, during games that mattered, Ricky won.  Handily.  That was less than two years ago.

Since you are the one claiming that Hilliard is better, please explain how you came to that conclusion.  I mean, his stat line for 2010 reads as 0 rush attempts and 1 catch for 3 yards.  Total.

Oh, wait, now I see why you mentioned preseason (when no one else did, to this point).  Are YOU are trying to claim that Hilliard is better based on what he did in the 2010 preseason?  Because he did almost literally NOTHING in the 2010 regular season.

[MikeO]

Im claiming you CAN'T live in the past!! That father time caught up with Ricky last year and since we are REBUILDING a youth movement is needed!!!

Hilliard is a better fit for the Dolphins in 2011 than Ricky is. That is the point.

[Spider-Dan]

How...

...do you know...

...that Hilliard is not worse than Ricky?

It's one thing to say that Ricky should be gone.  It's another to say that we should replace him with someone that he's recently beaten in an open competition.

There is no evidence to support the claim that Hilliard would be better than Ricky.  If you disagree, cite away.