NO Palmer or Young to Miami according to Mort

[MikeO]

"ESPN's Chris Mortensen believes the Dolphins have "dismissed" the idea of going after Vince Young as competition for Chad Henne.Early-offseason word out of Miami suggested the Dolphins were looking for a more mobile QB to challenge Henne. The front office has discussed Young, but is now ready to move in a different direction. Carson Palmer-to-Miami is a pipe dream, so they'll have to settle for less appealing option such as Kyle Orton or Donovan McNabb. "

[Pappy13]

I still think Orton is a better choice than either Palmer or Young.

[StL FinFan]

I still think Orton is a better choice than either Palmer or Young.

If I had to chose between those options, I would also choose Orton, but I am fine with Henne this year. 

[MikeO]

Orton for a 2nd rounder I would do in a minute. Wouldn't think twice about it. We just gotta protect our 1st rounder in case it ends up being so high we could land Luck or another top flight QB next year in the draft.

McNabb and Hasselbeck I wouldn't touch. And I would in no way re-sign Thigpen under any condition

[Spider-Dan]

Are you seriously willing to give away yet another 2nd rounder for a QB someone else doesn't want?

Consider that if Henne or his replacement doesn't work out, we might need our 2012 2nd (with our first) to trade up to a position to get a legitimate QB.

I'm done with mortgaging the future on other teams' reject quarterbacks.  Let's get a QB in free agency or via a player-trade.  No more trading away draft picks.

[MikeO]

Are you seriously willing to give away yet another 2nd rounder for a QB someone else doesn't want?

Consider that if Henne or his replacement doesn't work out, we might need our 2012 2nd (with our first) to trade up to a position to get a legitimate QB.

I'm done with mortgaging the future on other teams' reject quarterbacks.  Let's get a QB in free agency or via a player-trade.  No more trading away draft picks.

Considering we have wasted so many 2nd and 3rd round picks on bad players....yeah why not. You can't let a bad trade in the PAST prevent you from making a good trade NOW or in the FUTURE! That's just dumb!

[Spider-Dan]

If you don't learn from your mistakes, you'll keep making them over and over.

If we are going to trade away picks for a QB, let's trade for a GOOD QB, not a quarterback that a team is trying to get rid of.  That disqualifies:

- Kolb
- McNabb
- Orton
- Young

Palmer is the only QB on the table that is leaving of his own volition.  The rest of those guys are all rejects.  I don't mind bringing on a reject to compete with Henne, but I do mind trading away our future to do so.  If neither Henne nor the reject works out, we will likely need that 2nd to move into a slot to pick a quality QB.

Whoever we bring on, it should be someone through free agency (or a player swap).  No more mortgaging the future for backups and retreads.

[MikeO]

considering we have "WASTED" 2nd round picks on Pat White, John Beck, and other losers. I have no attachment to holding onto a 2nd round pick. You can't let a bad trade in the past prevent you from making trades in the future!!

[CF DolFan]

I completely agree with Dan. The only way I trade quality picks away right now is for a known starting QB that has a chance to stick around.

[masterfins]

considering we have "WASTED" 2nd round picks on Pat White, John Beck, and other losers. I have no attachment to holding onto a 2nd round pick. You can't let a bad trade in the past prevent you from making trades in the future!!

I agree with you that you can't let bad past trades keep you from making future trades.  However, for what's currently available I'm with Spider.  Use the 2nd round pick to trade up for a 1st round QB in next years draft.

[MikeO]

I completely agree with Dan. The only way I trade quality picks away right now is for a known starting QB that has a chance to stick around.

Orton might be that guy. Kolb too.

[Spider-Dan]

How can Orton be that guy?  He has had two different teams trying to get rid of him.  Denver doesn't even have an upgrade at QB and they're still looking to get rid of him.  Kolb was handed the starter's job on a platter and couldn't play well enough to keep it.

I'm not willing to trade a high draft pick for the next Brad Johnson or Rich Gannon or Trent Green.  I want someone that actually has some upside.

[MikeO]

How can Orton be that guy?  He has had two different teams trying to get rid of him.  Denver doesn't even have an upgrade at QB and they're still looking to get rid of him.  Kolb was handed the starter's job on a platter and couldn't play well enough to keep it.

I'm not willing to trade a high draft pick for the next Brad Johnson or Rich Gannon or Trent Green.  I want someone that actually has some upside.

instead we just waste high draft picks on Pat White and Patrick Turner and Chad Henne's. Guys that can't do anything.

Chicago got rid of Orton cause they got Cutler who they viewed as Better. Fine, nobody claimed Orton was a top flight guy, but his numbers in Denver have proven he is very very good. And Kolb got injured with a concussion WEEK 1 and never got his job back because Vick was so great. So because the guy got a concussion it means he can't play?! please!!

[dolfan13]

orton would be a huge upgrade over henne right now.

you'd have to balance what it would cost, but he would provide a significant improvement at the most important position on the field.

[CF DolFan]

orton would be a huge upgrade over henne right now.

you'd have to balance what it would cost, but he would provide a significant improvement at the most important position on the field.

Would you rather take Orton now or use the second along with a first next year to get Luck? Of course this is just an example and also assumes Luck continues to be the guy people think he is.  Our options are probably better if we wait and do not waste picks on trying to develop someone elses's cast offs.