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Question: who is to blame
players   -2 (8.7%)
owners   -6 (26.1%)
both player and owners   -10 (43.5%)
fans   -0 (0%)
organized religion   -1 (4.3%)
canada   -3 (13%)
Sean Hannity & Rush Limbaugh   -1 (4.3%)
media   -0 (0%)
Total Voters: 22

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« on: May 27, 2011, 05:36:19 pm »

Maybe a poll should be created,

Who do you blame for the current lockout the players, owners or both equally?
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« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2011, 05:40:11 pm »

The fans.












I just said that to rile up MikeO. Smiley We all know it's the players fault.  Evil
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« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2011, 07:10:40 pm »


Organized religion is to blame for the lockout

...and everything else.




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« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2011, 07:20:27 pm »

Millionaires vs Billionaires.  Some of these guys make more money in one year than I'll see in a lifetime..... and I'm pretty well off. 

I have no sympathy for these crybabies.  Turns out Davonne Bess is digging ditches in Costa Rica as part of a humanitarian project.  Let's see when some more of these guys have to do it for $10 per hour.
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« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2011, 10:12:30 pm »

Both.
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« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2011, 05:43:38 pm »

Owners.

They backed out of the current deal in place and locked out the players. Everything was running along smooth. The owners got greedy
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« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2011, 06:40:52 pm »

I would be neutral on this lockout, except for one factor:  the TV contract.

When the league negotiated the last TV contract (and built in the continued-pay-during-lockout), they committed two major offenses, in my mind:

1) They did not aggressively seek the best possible price, choosing instead to bargain for a deal that continues TV pay (to the league) during a lockout.  The players are contractually entitled to a certain percentage of revenue, so in effect this gave the players less money for a TV deal that was designed to undermine the players' bargaining position.

2) In seeking such lockout guarantees, the league seems unwilling to shoulder the same hardships that the players must face during the lockout.  If you are unwilling to face the financial consequences of a lockout, don't enact one.
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« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2011, 09:22:57 pm »

Canada
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« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2011, 02:17:25 pm »

Sean Hannity & Rush Limbaugh
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« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2011, 10:48:51 am »

i added a poll as requested
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« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2011, 11:19:52 am »

The poll appears to be locked.  I'm unlocking it now.
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« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2011, 11:29:45 am »

I chose the owners.  I'm normally a big owner supporter, when it comes to holdouts.  However, all of the teams are making big money, and the earning potential for players is a limited time.  It's also a stupid time for a lockout, when everyone is making cash.
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« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2011, 11:45:04 am »

Owners and players.  They're all greedy. 
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« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2011, 12:02:02 pm »

^^Ditto. Can't figure out a way to spend 9 Billion dollars. Please.
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« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2011, 05:47:37 pm »

One thing people forget. The players aren't asking for anything more. They want nothing than what they have.

The owners are cutting HUGE TV deals where they make more and more money, and the players aren't asking for a bigger cut or a piece of that. Nope, they players are content.

This is all on the owners. They made this mess and have no clue how to clean it up.
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