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MikeO
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« on: June 12, 2011, 10:55:26 pm »
Lebron's Legacy

1) Made a NBA Finals with a Cavs team. Had zero help. they got SWEPT!

2) Made a NBA Finals with esentially the Eastern Conference All Star team, only won 2 games. What more help does Lebron need to win a Championship?

In this Finals Lebron was the 2nd best player on his team. The 3rd best player on the Court. Anyone who ever mentions him in the same breath as Jordan, Bird, Magic, Chamberlin, Russell,...etc is fooling themselves.

Lebron is a "good" player who has done little to prove himself to be a "great" or "special" player. Taking a bad Cavs team through a horrible Eastern Conference to a Finals, I mean Jason Kidd did that in NJ, AI in Philly, and even Reggie in Indy. That doesn't make a "legend". Lebron had a stage in the past 10 days to cement his legacy, and all he did was bury it by CHOKING time after time after time again! All he did was CHOKE in every big spot.
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« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2011, 11:12:48 pm »
I disagree with you, in general and with pretty much every single point you made.

You are 100% incorrect and I am diametrically opposed to your viewpoints, I find your opinion to be shallow and lacking any depth of knowledge or understanding of basketball as a sport, or the dynamics of team play in general.
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« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2011, 11:37:25 pm »
LeBron doesn't have a legacy yet...his career is not even mid way through it's lifespan. What you have so far is one of the most talented players to play the game, but he hasn't proven to be great....yet. Time will tell, but if Miami wins 1-3 titles in the coming years, LeBron will still be scrutinized because he took an easy route to get there.
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« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2011, 11:59:18 pm »
Quote from: MikeO on June 12, 2011, 10:55:26 pm
Lebron's Legacy

1) Made a NBA Finals with a Cavs team. Had zero help. they got SWEPT!

Not entirely true. He was obviously the lone superstar on the team, but that Cavs team had a lot of great role players that complimented Lebron.

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2) Made a NBA Finals with esentially the Eastern Conference All Star team, only won 2 games. What more help does Lebron need to win a Championship?

Hard to argue with this. I mean, if you can make the Finals then you can win them. Bounce goes here or there and it's a different game. I wouldn't be surprised to see Miami win it next year as, like you said, they are a walking All-Star team.

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In this Finals Lebron was the 2nd best player on his team. The 3rd best player on the Court. Anyone who ever mentions him in the same breath as Jordan, Bird, Magic, Chamberlin, Russell,...etc is fooling themselves.

Lebron is a "good" player who has done little to prove himself to be a "great" or "special" player. Taking a bad Cavs team through a horrible Eastern Conference to a Finals, I mean Jason Kidd did that in NJ, AI in Philly, and even Reggie in Indy. That doesn't make a "legend". Lebron had a stage in the past 10 days to cement his legacy, and all he did was bury it by CHOKING time after time after time again! All he did was CHOKE in every big spot.

I would say Lebron is a great player, but he isn't a legend. Right now, he is Patrick Ewing. Everything else, I agree with.
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« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2011, 01:00:55 am »
I believe this is the worst Heat team you'll see. One that made it to the Finals. This isn't the Miami LeBrons. Holes will be filled. Smile America, Miami finally lost.
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« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2011, 01:12:58 am »
They may be worse next year as now the pressure is even greater on Lebron. You see how tentative he is in the 4th quarter, he just doesn't want to take the important shot. If the team doesn't change it's dynamic next year, it will probably be more of the same. If either Wade or Lebron agree to let the other one be the star and the other be the Pippen, then they have an excellent shot.

They are drinking tonight in Cleveland. Probably moreso than in Dallas.
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« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2011, 01:37:07 am »
Well, Lebron joined Miami because he knew he didn't have to be the man.  It's a flaw in character.  Most stars want to be the man.  Lebron, on the other hand, wanted to defer.  That says an awful lot.  And it's exactly what happened in this series.
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« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2011, 01:40:47 am »
I don't have the computer ability to post in my current state, but let it be said....



QUITNESS!
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« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2011, 01:49:02 am »
Must. Resist. Getting into. Silly. Arguments...
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« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2011, 01:54:46 am »
If LeBron hadn't totally quit after game 2, Heat win this series easy.  There is no argument.
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« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2011, 02:37:10 am »
Maybe, if Lebron hadn't have been outplayed by Brian FUCKING Cardinal in 2 games, maybe...just maybe... this would have been different.  In the end, Lebron had a chance and he shit the bed.  There is no other answer.  THERE ARE NO SHORT CUTS, LebBron.
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« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2011, 03:19:20 am »
what a clown.  complete collapse tonight, fuck you leBron.  enjoy never playing in another finals again, asshole.
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« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2011, 03:44:54 am »
Um, LeBron is 26 years old.  When Jordan was 26, he hadn't even sniffed a Finals.  LeBron has been there twice.

Calm down with the "He's done!" talk.
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« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2011, 04:27:36 am »
Quote from: Spider-Dan on June 13, 2011, 03:44:54 am
Um, LeBron is 26 years old.  When Jordan was 26, he hadn't even sniffed a Finals.  LeBron has been there twice.

Calm down with the "He's done!" talk.

Please. Jordan never lost a Finals he appeared in, Lebron has lost two. Also the Eastern Conference was far more loaded and tougher than it is so far during Lebron's career. The Knicks, Celtics, Pacers, and Pistons were all capable of winning the title every year.
Lebron has been in the league for 7 years, Jordan already had a title by this same time.
Stop making excuses for this guy.
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« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2011, 06:52:23 am »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9BqUBYaHlM&feature=related

This is what Lebron (and the Heat) is all about. All Hype!
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