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« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2011, 03:27:20 pm »

no one is saying that orton is going to come in and set the nfl on fire. he is a big upgrade over henne right now, but that isn't saying much. henne really stinks...

this isn't going out and looking for a backup qb like thigpen. if the dolphins were cool with henne, they would've been a bigger player in the deangelo williams deal, and wait for bulger, delhomme, whatever other veteran fa scrub qb available to fill the backup role.

this is the dolphins calling up anyone and everyone to come in to be the new qb. it's going to be a decent size multi-year deal, in which they are giving up a a high draft pick. orton is the new starting qb regardless of whatever spin comes out of this organization. you don't make that kind of investment for a backup.
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« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2011, 03:30:59 pm »

They haven't even made the deal yet. How do you know what kind of investment they are making?

And the absolute biggest mistake that Miami could make would be to guarantee him that he'll be the starter. You only do that with franchise type QB's and Orton ain't one of them. I don't think they guaranteed Pennington would be a starter when he came from the Jets and the Dolphins were trying to decide if Beck or Henne (the rookie) was gonna be the starter.
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« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2011, 03:40:55 pm »

orton is due 9 million dollars this year. obviously he is going to take a pay cut, but unlikely he agrees to sign with anyone for less than 6 million per year.

sure the org isn't going to come out and say this is the undisputed game 1 starter, but you don't make this kind of an investment thinking the guy is going to warm the bench.

for god's sake they benched henne for a one armed qb, and tyler thigpen twice last year. henne is done, put a fork in him.
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« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2011, 03:43:38 pm »

Kyle Orton 2010:

20 TD (17th)
9 INT (22nd most in league)
3,653 Yards (10th)
87.5 Rating (15th)

* Note: Orton did not play the final 3 games of the season
** Note: Tim Tebow had 13 snaps during Orton's starting tenure in 2010

Chad Henne 2010:

15 TD (23rd)
19 INT (4th most in league)
3,301 Yards (15th)
 75.4 Rating (26th)

* Note: Henne did not start Week 10 (Pennington) and did not play Week 11 (Thigpen).

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Age: 28 / 6'4" / 225

Chad Henne Vitals:

Age: 26 / 6'3" / 230
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« Reply #19 on: July 27, 2011, 03:44:22 pm »

orton is due 9 million dollars this year. obviously he is going to take a pay cut, but unlikely he agrees to sign with anyone for less than 6 million per year.

sure the org isn't going to come out and say this is the undisputed game 1 starter, but you don't make this kind of an investment thinking the guy is going to warm the bench.

for god's sake they benched henne for a one armed qb, and tyler thigpen twice last year. henne is done, put a fork in him.
No of course you don't make the trade thinking that he going to warm the bench, but you HOPE that both Henne and Orton play well and you have a tough decision to make or at the very least ONE of them plays out of their mind and makes the decision easy, NO MATTER WHICH ONE IT IS.
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« Reply #20 on: July 27, 2011, 03:59:43 pm »

i mean it's over for henne man...

you have how many weeks before the first game? you pick your starter, and get them as much reps as possible to get ready for new england. this isn't going to be split snaps, wait until the final preseason game to make a nail bitting decision on the qb. you are in serious catch-up mode here because of the lost offseason.

orton is going to get all the snaps from day one of camp.
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« Reply #21 on: July 27, 2011, 04:40:12 pm »

^^ not according to the coaching staff.  They stated publicly weeks ago that there would be open competition for starting QB.
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« Reply #22 on: July 27, 2011, 05:24:10 pm »

Sweet titties we have a better QB. Satisfied.
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« Reply #23 on: July 27, 2011, 05:25:36 pm »

Sweet titties we have a better QB. Satisfied.

agreed
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« Reply #24 on: July 27, 2011, 05:26:51 pm »

With Orton at QB this Dolphins team has a chance to make the playoffs. EVEN coming out of a tough AFC East

With Henne at QB the playoffs are  pipe dream. That is the difference.

Does Orton win us a Super Bowl, probably not. Does he make us relevant on the NFL Landscape....YES!
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« Reply #25 on: July 27, 2011, 05:27:27 pm »

Sweet titties we have a better QB. Satisfied.

Jump the gun much? We haven't made any moves yet.
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« Reply #26 on: July 27, 2011, 05:31:31 pm »

My bad. Thought the deal was all but done.
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« Reply #27 on: July 27, 2011, 06:00:47 pm »

NOOOOOOO   ANOTHER BAD YEAR! They lost there toughness on going for the best players.I anyone get Hassleback then MAYBE Mcnabb. Watch!! 
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« Reply #28 on: July 27, 2011, 07:21:32 pm »

I don't think it's gonna happen. Just read that Orton might be interested in staying in Denver. It's looking more and more like Orton's gonna cost too much to pry him away from Denver. Miami isn't gonna part with a #2 and I got a feeling that Denver isn't gonna give him up for less than that.
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« Reply #29 on: July 27, 2011, 07:27:13 pm »

I am not sure why Orton would want to stay in Denver as a backup. I have heard that Denver will take a #3 for him but the asking price may have gone up with a couple of teams looking at him.
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