orton Is not worth any of our 1-3 draft picks

[dolfan13]

Im not disagreeing with the facts, I'm saying Ireland/Sparano/Ross or whoever had a part in making that decision is a total and utter moron!! It's bad football. It's bad decision making.

They don't get it. They think they can win in this league with a piss poor QB, ball control and strong defense.....good luck! The league has changed, it can't happen anymore!! It doesn't work. Orton isn't the 2nd coming, but he is light years better than anyone we got. To say otherwise is foolish. 20 TD's and 9 INT's on a bad team last year. Proof is there!

hey i agree... but ultimately i think it'll be an important fact to point out that this regime passed on orton not because of draft picks, but because of money.

[MikeO]

hey i agree... but ultimately i think it'll be an important fact to point out that this regime passed on orton not because of draft picks, but because of money.

Considering they are around $9 mill under the cap, if they re-did Solai's contract they woudl be $15 mill under the cap, that makes the decesion EVEN WORSE!!!!

[Tenshot13]

I just want to point out that Henne has been lighting it up in practice since the "We Want Orton!" crap went down the other day.  Take it for what it's worth...I wanted Orton too, but I'm not about to give up on this season.  This is Henne's make or break year...he has an OC that's playing to his strength (west coast type offense with short and intermediate passes), a ton of weapons to throw too...He's set up for success this year.  It is very possible he could suck out, but I think the pieces are in place for him to have a solid season.

[MikeO]

I just want to point out that Henne has been lighting it up in practice since the "We Want Orton!" crap went down the other day.  Take it for what it's worth..

As Allen Iverson would say......."We talkin about Practice"

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Apparently, I used too much subtlety in my previous post.

Players have the option of holding out when they don't wish to play under the contract they currently have.  You can see two current examples of this in Chris Johnson and Osi Umenyiora.

Therefore, it would be grade-A idiotic to trade away picks for an (unhappy) player, not sign him to a new contract, and potentially risk him holding out until Week 9.  If you trade draft picks for a player with one year remaining on his contract, you'd better be damned sure that he will choose to play that full year.

+1. 

And even if a player doesn't formally hold out.  He can make things very uncomfortable for a team.  See Moss, Haynesworth, Brandon Marshall, etc. 

[fyo]

You hold out in the new CBA you lose $30,000 a day [...] The new CBA put an end to the "holdout" unless the player is a total moron.

Cue DeSean Jackson... After holding out for 11 days (ensuring a $330,000 fine), Jackson just reported to camp to avoid losing a year of service towards free agency.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp11/story/_/id/6839738/desean-jackson-report-philadelphia-eagles-monday-report-says

[MikeO]

^^^ exactly. Thank you

[Spider-Dan]

So what do you do if Orton pulls a Haynesworth and says he won't play?  Or pops up with a mysterious injury?

No matter how you slice it, you can't make an unhappy player play (well).  Acting like Miami could simply force Orton to play is absurd.

P.S. Last I checked, Chris Johnson is still holding out.

[MikeO]

Now Orton is Haynesworth...lol

great analogy

[Spider-Dan]

How about Orton as Chris Johnson?

I figure, if I keep saying his name over and over, you'll eventually acknowledge that he is actually holding out.

edit: And then there is this:

EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- Two-time Pro Bowl defensive end Osi Umenyiora watched the New York Giants practice on Friday for the sixth straight day while his contract dispute with the team continues.

For the second straight day, the Giants said the 29-year-old Umenyiora did not practice because the player said one of his knees hurt.

Umenyiora did not report for the opening day of training camp a week ago Friday because he said general manager Jerry Reese had promised to renegotiate his contract. The deal has two years remaining and will pay the nine-year veteran $7.1 million. He came to camp the next day but has yet to practice.

So yeah, Miami could totally force Orton to report to camp.  And then he'd sit on the sideline with an "injury."

[Pappy13]

Time to move on....

[MikeO]

Orton isn't Chris Johnson either. Sorry! 

[yuppi]

I'm glad we didn't get orton
he's a bonafide overated bum