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« Reply #45 on: August 09, 2011, 11:29:09 am »

But you were right on the rest. Hard to argue against him based on performance.
Who is the Dolphins' career leader in rush attempts?  Ricky has more than Csonka.
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« Reply #46 on: August 09, 2011, 11:53:34 am »

I don't think he belongs in the Ring of Honor...I don't agree with comparing Ricky to Czonka...Ricky was a tail back, Czonka was a FB...Ricky played in an era of 16 game season,(compared to Czonka's 14) and only was the "best" for 1 year....While I think Ricky might be the best back Miami has ever had,but I don't think that says a whole helluva a lot either.... 

Jivides point seems to ring true to me...I'd really like to see some of those guy's up there before Ricky...
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« Reply #47 on: August 09, 2011, 11:57:10 am »

Who is the Dolphins' career leader in rush attempts?  Ricky has more than Csonka.

According to pro-football-reference.com, Ricky's the leader at 1509 attaempts.  Czonk is second at 1506, Ronnie Brown third at 1128.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/mia/career-rushing.htm
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« Reply #48 on: August 09, 2011, 12:46:43 pm »

This quote is what troubles me. 

Miami hasn't exactly been known as a power running team.  Dan Marino's entire career saw, what?  One rusher at 1,000 yards?  And that cat still didn't average 4.0 yards per carry to do it.
Bernie Kosar is a member of the Browns' equivalent to the Honor Roll ("Cleveland Browns Legends").  Jim McMahon is a member of the Bears' Ring of Honor. (edit: the Bears "Ring of Honor" I found was an unofficial fan list)  Do you think either of these QBs would have been so honored by the Dolphins, the 49ers, or any other team with multiple modern-era Hall of Fame quarterbacks?  Of course not.  Context matters; a team with 40 years of crappy QBs will be elated to finally have a good (not great) one.  Similarly, although Ricky's exploits would not be a big deal for, say, the Cowboys, on the Dolphins they are quite a big deal.

Fiedler may be the third best Dolphin QB ever, but that statement is used as a sad commentary on post-Marino QBs.  Ricky won't be a HOFer, but his stats (by themselves) certainly merit the next best level of recognition.  The plain and obvious truth is that while Fiedler was simply the least-mediocre QB since Marino, Ricky (at his best) was the best tailback in the history of the franchise, and he gave many productive years even after his prime.  As I already said, not many tailbacks can give you 1000+ yards at age 32.
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« Reply #49 on: August 09, 2011, 12:56:32 pm »

I hope we both hang out on this board long enough for us to laugh at that prediction together... I'll go the opposite direction, and say that, 10 years from now, a RB who has yet to gain his first yard for Miami will be considered a more worthy RB for the Ring o' Honor.



so far in the history of the dolphins franchise, what are we, 1 every 20 years or so?
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« Reply #50 on: August 09, 2011, 12:56:46 pm »

Who is the Dolphins' career leader in rush attempts?  Ricky has more than Csonka.

Wow, I didn't realize there was such a variance in a simple stat such as how many times a RB carried the ball. I'm not going to guess which one is correct but JVIDEs gave one source.

Miami Dolphins.com (the source I was citing)
Csonka- 1506
Williams- 1350

I just realized the Dolphins site was not up to date with 2010 carries. Ricky did infact surpass Csonka with that.
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« Reply #51 on: August 09, 2011, 01:10:51 pm »

They're all "correct."

NFL.com stats are career, all teams (so it includes Ricky with NO and Csonka with NYG).
MiamiDolphins.com has Dolphin-only stats.
1509 - 159 (Ricky's carries in 2010) = 1350, so the website hasn't been updated.

Ricky is the all-time leader in carries as a Dolphin.
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« Reply #52 on: August 09, 2011, 03:58:51 pm »

Well I personally would have liked for the Phins to resign him for this season but shit happens. Good Luck in Baltimore Ricky I wish you the best.
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