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« on: August 17, 2011, 08:19:20 am »

Former University of Miami booster admits to spending millions of dollars on players (everything from cash to prostitution) over most of the past decade. Many parts of his story have corroborated by players and others with no (apparent) motive to lie. Yeah, sure, things like this are almost certainly common, but the NCAA is going to HAVE to come down hard on the program. Very hard.

http://sports.yahoo.com/investigations/news?slug=cr-renegade_miami_booster_details_illicit_benefits_081611
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« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2011, 08:58:58 am »

This is big news around here seeing as three boys from my high school are caught up in it.  Ray-Ray Armstrong and Dyron Dye @ Miami and Andre Debose @ Florida. 
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« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2011, 09:53:44 am »

The kicker is if they waive the 4 year rule. I think they are going to come down heavy on the U.
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« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2011, 10:41:51 am »

Maybe I don't understand but why is this the school's fault?  Some random dude bought stuff for students.  What does that have to do with the school, or the program itself?
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« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2011, 11:30:47 am »

Maybe I don't understand but why is this the school's fault?  Some random dude bought stuff for students.  What does that have to do with the school, or the program itself?

You must not have read the article. First, he was an "official" booster at the school, so that makes him affiliated with the school. Secondly, there are claims that coaches were also present during some of the activities which are outlawed by the NCAA. That means people employed by the school and not just affiliated with it were knowledgeable and ignored the practice.
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« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2011, 11:50:27 am »

^^ That's bad...

But, still a booster is exactly that.  What do you think a booster does?  The school still has no control over that guy, official or not.

If coaches were there, that's just irresponsible, and disappointing.
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« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2011, 12:21:32 pm »

This is extremely bad. I just read that whole article. Wow.

Everyone is to and should be blamed. You can't NOT know about this if you're someone at the school with any kind of moral compass and not know it's either illegal or just flat-out wrong.

Miami University should receive whatever the maximum penalty allowed for this.
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« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2011, 01:11:13 pm »

Its University of Miami.  Miami University is in Ohio.

http://www.miami.muohio.edu/
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« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2011, 01:14:01 pm »

This is extremely bad. I just read that whole article. Wow.

Everyone is to and should be blamed. You can't NOT know about this if you're someone at the school with any kind of moral compass and not know it's either illegal or just flat-out wrong.

Miami University should receive whatever the maximum penalty allowed for this.

the guy did dupe folks into contributing $930 million dollars to his ponzi scheme. he is a professional con artist.
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« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2011, 01:20:50 pm »

the guy did dupe folks into contributing $930 million dollars to his ponzi scheme. he is a professional con artist.

OK, but how do you discount people corroborating his story (included in that is a former Hurricane coach)? You can try to bring this guy's history up as defense, but I doubt anyone but Hurricane supporters actually believes this is a ruse. Too many people, too many photos, too many financial records.
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« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2011, 01:43:27 pm »

im not saying it did not happen. what i am saying is that this guy is a professional con artist that exploited kids.

the coaches, and administration for that matter, are another issue that is inexcusable.
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« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2011, 04:17:53 pm »

I've heard the possibility of the death penalty for UM. If that happens, the U is up shits creek.
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« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2011, 04:42:37 pm »

I don't think that is a serious consdieration by the NCAA.
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« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2011, 05:27:09 pm »

I don't think death penalty, but it will be far worse than what USC got. Remember at USC only 2 guys got in trouble really and they lost 30 scholorships and 2 years of bowls over that.

Miami might lose 5-7 years of Bowls (although 10 wouldn't shock me) and so many schloroships that it might wish it got the death penalty!!

The program is dead as we all know it. It won't be able to rebound from this. Miami better pray to god that this booster stuck to football and didn't spread his goods to other sports. Or else he could bring down the entire Athletic Department.
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« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2011, 05:29:47 pm »

The smoking gun from new reports is one of the big-wigs in the Athletic Deparment knew about this guy in 2007, knew who he was and knew what he was doing. And kept quiet and never did anything about it or him.

The fact the University knew and did nothing....not good! As bad as it can get.
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