University of Miami football program in serious trouble

[Phishfan]

Like with Tressel. A cover up is always looked at worse than the infraction itself.

[Tenshot13]

After this, it's looking like my Bulls will take UM's spot as the big 3 in FL. 

[MikeO]

After this, it's looking like my Bulls will take UM's spot as the big 3 in FL. 

I think they already did before this news broke, but I know I am in the minority with that opinon

[Landshark]

This does look very serious, and if the allegations are true, Miami's football program may be hit with extremely stiff penalties.  However, I'd prefer to let it play out before jumping to conclusions.  Yahoo sports isn't exactly the most credible of sources.... and the main source in this story is a known liar and convicted swindler. 

http://allabouttheu.wordpress.com/2011/08/18/renegade-reporter-spells-out-litany-of-accusations-while-often-failing-to-substantiate-his-claims/

I've heard the possibility of the death penalty for UM. If that happens, the U is up shits creek.

I don't think that is a serious consdieration by the NCAA.

A possibility?  Yes.  Likely to happen?  No.  The NCAA saw what the death penalty did to SMU.  They don't want to see that happen again.

[dolfan13]

This does look very serious, and if the allegations are true, Miami's football program may be hit with extremely stiff penalties.  However, I'd prefer to let it play out before jumping to conclusions.  Yahoo sports isn't exactly the most credible of sources.... and the main source in this story is a known liar and convicted swindler. 

http://allabouttheu.wordpress.com/2011/08/18/renegade-reporter-spells-out-litany-of-accusations-while-often-failing-to-substantiate-his-claims/

i read through this... yahoo is certainly guilty of some sensationalism journalism here. the pictures are what grab you into the story, but if you really do think about it, they don't prove anything.

the receipts are kinda funny too. wow a receipt from a guy that spent a lot of money for hotels. how do you prove specific players actually used those rooms?

[Phishfan]

how do you prove specific players actually used those rooms?

By having others corroborate the story, which has been happening.

[Dave Gray]

This story reminds me a lot of the Jose Canseco story about steroids when it first broke.  The guy telling it being a swindler and a liar doesn't change the facts.  I believe every word he's saying.

[fyo]

I believe every word he's saying.

So do I.

My only "problem" with it is that the exact same thing is going on almost everywhere else. Call me a cynic...

[Dave Gray]

I think that compensation is going on all over the place.  I'm not sure that prostitute boat parties are, though.

[dolfan13]

By having others corroborate the story, which has been happening.

if you read the article carefully, there is only one person (other than shapiro) coming out to corroborate a particular accusation, tyrone moss.

the yahoo story groups all 72 accusations as all having been independently corroborated which is not the case. the abortion claim is one glaring example. it's sensational, but the only person saying it happened is shapiro.

[Sunstroke]

I think that compensation is going on all over the place.  I'm not sure that prostitute boat parties are, though.

Oh man, the FAU prostitute boat parties are legendary down here...Dirty naked freaks on a slow boat down the intracoastal.

[Phishfan]

if you read the article carefully, there is only one person (other than shapiro) coming out to corroborate a particular accusation, tyrone moss.

the yahoo story groups all 72 accusations as all having been independently corroborated which is not the case. the abortion claim is one glaring example. it's sensational, but the only person saying it happened is shapiro.

Not exactly. The article says this, "In the process, documents, photos and 21 human sources – including nine former Miami players or recruits, and one former coach – corroborated multiple parts of Shapiro’s rule-breaking." There is also mention an unnamed source regarding Moss and testimony from one of Shapiro's colleagues during his federal trial. I don't see how you came up with only one other person.

[SportsChick]

I heard an interview with the writers of the story. They said they went in and told him they don't believe anything he is saying and that he would have to prove it all. Apparently there are documents and photos out the ass - receipts, bank statements etc.

[MikeO]

I expect to see Miami banned from bowl games anywhere from 5-10 years. I expect Miami to be off TV 1-2 years. And I expect Miami to lose in the neighborhood of 30-50 scholorships.

Death Peanlty? NO, but damn close! Enough to sink this program the rest of our natural lives

USC only had esentially 1 guy get in trouble, they lost bowls for 2 years and 30 scholorships. Miami had a payroll of 72-75 men. The penalty will be alot stiffer! ALOT!

[StL FinFan]

So do I.
My only "problem" with it is that the exact same thing is going on almost everywhere else. Call me a cynic...

I think that compensation is going on all over the place.  I'm not sure that prostitute boat parties are, though.

Maybe so, but that doesn't help if you are the one that got caught, and it doesn't make the ones that get caught any less guilty.