University of Miami football program in serious trouble

[MikeO]

one of the new penalties being thrown on top of losing schlorships, no bowl games for an extended period...etc  is a possiblity of 2 years or so of NO home games. Make the team play every game on the road.  It would cost the university (and Stephen Ross actually) a mint. Program would be a financial loser on such a big level it would cripple them. It would keep the ACC happy since they would allow all the games the Canes are involved in to stay on TV which doesn't punish the other ACC schools plus it would be one aspect of a strong punishment against the canes.

[masterfins]

^^^If there are no home games for two years you might as well shut the program down for two years.  It would cost the university million$ to field the team, with absolutely no income, can't see any university doing that in this economic climate.

[Landshark]

^^^If there are no home games for two years you might as well shut the program down for two years.  It would cost the university million$ to field the team, with absolutely no income, can't see any university doing that in this economic climate.

The university still gets its TV money and it also gets a portion of the proceeds from road games.  Granted, it would still be losing a lot of money.  Can you say tuition hike?

[bsmooth]

http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/story/Miami-expected-to-declare-12-players-ineligible-082511?gt1=39002

The beginning??

[CF DolFan]

They are looking at declaring 12 ineligible to play including two from my high school... Ray-Ray Armstrong and Dyron Dye. 

I have a question.  Why is it that the other players who went elsewhere, like Andre Dubose who went to Florida but participated with the other two Seminole High School guys, have been exonerated? Is it just because he took things from a Miami booster but went elsewhere? If that is the case, I'd be soaking up all these boosters from schools I wasn't planning on attending and then changing my mind after I got what I could get!!

[fyo]

I have a question.  Why is it that the other players who went elsewhere, like Andre Dubose who went to Florida but participated with the other two Seminole High School guys, have been exonerated?

I don't know the specifics of this case, but the media seem to be lumping two wholly separate issues together: Booster violations and player violations. At least some of the kids who were exonerated (at other schools now) were cleared because the allegations were of improper conduct solely on the part of the booster (e.g. introducing the kids to an agent, which the kids could easily claim ignorance of as long as no improper benefits were received).

The University of Miami hasn't publicly disclosed WHY they believe these players are (or may be) ineligible. Without that information, it's impossible to make an informed judgement.

[JVides]

I have a question.  Why is it that the other players who went elsewhere, like Andre Dubose who went to Florida but participated with the other two Seminole High School guys, have been exonerated?

Some stories in the Miami Herald have mentioned that the exonerated players may have been granted immunity for their testimonies against Miami.  Apparently, the NCAA has the latitude to do so.

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/umiami/2011/08/limited-immunity-just-one-way-the-ncaa-plans-to-try-and-nail-um-says-cbs-sports-report.html#storylink=misearch

[MikeO]

The university still gets its TV money and it also gets a portion of the proceeds from road games.  Granted, it would still be losing a lot of money.  Can you say tuition hike?

Well that might be part of the punishment though, no TV money.

[MaineDolFan]

--Side note--

This is an excellent thread - you all are contributing to it very well and keeping your heads.  I love it!  Thanks!

Carry on, great discussion!

[Landshark]

It's official.  About 13 players are now ineligible.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/6894959/thirteen-miami-hurricanes-players-ineligible-reinstated-ncaa-source-says

This needed to be done.  They go into the season with these guys and later it's found that they commited the violations, then it's an automatic forfeit of all games these guys played in.  By sitting them down now and letting the NCAA let them back, they won't have that problem.

[Landshark]

The NCAA has decided that eight players must sit out games and repay the money they took.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/08/30/2382557_ncaa-eight-miami-hurricanes-players.html#storylink=addthis