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« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2011, 02:15:28 pm »

You claim that he somehow sucks at goalline runs based solely on the fact that he hasn't had opportunities to do it.  He is clearly better than everyone else in the league at non-goalline 1-yard-runs, so what possible reason do you have to believe that (even if he was technically worse than his amazing 90%+ first-down conversion rate) he wouldn't be the best in the league at goalline runs if given the opportunity?
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« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2011, 02:31:00 pm »

You claim that he somehow sucks at goalline runs based solely on the fact that he hasn't had opportunities to do it.  He is clearly better than everyone else in the league at non-goalline 1-yard-runs, so what possible reason do you have to believe that (even if he was technically worse than his amazing 90%+ first-down conversion rate) he wouldn't be the best in the league at goalline runs if given the opportunity?

I am claiming that you can't say that he is best at 1 yard runs by comparing his 1 yard runs to everybody elses 1 yard + goalline 1 yard runs.  Also, he wasn't even then best at 1 yard rushes last year.
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« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2011, 02:36:25 pm »

Anyways to get the thread back on track.  I think this team should have run more at the goalline.  Reggie Bush is a playmaker, he can get over the top of the pile and score.  That fade to hartline was ridiculous. After fasanos play, only 1 run out of 3 attempts.  That is ridiculous.
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« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2011, 05:59:39 pm »

Larry Johnson?

If he can't run up the gut... which he made his living prior to Miami all those yrs in KC running between the tackles...then why is he on the roster?  Lex Hilliard is a tough inside runner as well...

Larry Johnson hasn't played in 2 years. He's garbage too.
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« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2011, 06:01:02 pm »

When we have needed a yard, he has been the best in the league at getting that yard.

You have no evidence whatsoever to the contrary.

I DO, he has 1 TD in his entire NFL career. The odds of him getting one there is slim and none
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« Reply #20 on: September 15, 2011, 06:03:37 pm »

Anyways to get the thread back on track.  I think this team should have run more at the goalline.  Reggie Bush is a playmaker, he can get over the top of the pile and score.  That fade to hartline was ridiculous. After fasanos play, only 1 run out of 3 attempts.  That is ridiculous.

Well, lets be honest. If Sparano is fired after this season (likely), Daboll is gone too. So, I'm not going to get too worked up this year about his playcalling. Because a year from now odds are we have a new head coach, offensive coordinator, and no matter how good Henne is,  a new QB. Henne is a free agent and might say the hell with it and just bolt or if he sinks back into his bad habits we won't want him back. And a new head coach might not want him.
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« Reply #21 on: September 15, 2011, 07:04:09 pm »

You can't say that. Polite has NEVER gotten goaline carries in 3 years in Miami. And who's to say if he is on the roster that Daboll still doesn't throw the ball?

You are making a HUGE leap and assuming a lot

I CAN say that, so I did.  As Spider showed in another thread, he never even had the opportunity to receive a goal-line carry since as a team they were not in that position often (if at all.) 

The biggest reach and assumption of all is from you Polite haters in ASSUMING he could not get a td in that scenario DESPITE having over 90% success rate when in 1 yard situations.  You guys ASSUME because defenses have to respect our passing game ( the Dolphins passing game  Roll Eyes HA!!!) they cannot sell out on run like they would in a goal-line situation. 

You guys failed.  You guys claimed gaining one yard to keep a drive going is not as important.  Our loss this Monday proved THE EXACT OPPOSITE.

p.s. I can CAPS for EMPHASIS too!
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« Reply #22 on: September 15, 2011, 07:53:17 pm »

90% success rate. Yet 32 teams don't want him. Interesting! lol


You guys crack me up.
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« Reply #23 on: September 15, 2011, 09:52:46 pm »

So MikeO, I presume you have officially abandoned your "who cares about 1 freaking yard?" position after it cost us 11 points?

Because it seems like now, your only response as to why the Dolphins shouldn't get him is that nobody else wants him.  Guess what?  There are at least a DOZEN players on this team today that would not be picked up (within a month of release) if they were cut tomorrow.
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« Reply #24 on: September 15, 2011, 09:54:46 pm »

^ It's a damn good thing we jumped on Larry Johnson then, eh!  Don't want the other 31 teams claiming that incredible force before we did!
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« Reply #25 on: September 15, 2011, 10:28:15 pm »

So MikeO, I presume you have officially abandoned your "who cares about 1 freaking yard?" position after it cost us 11 points?

Because it seems like now, your only response as to why the Dolphins shouldn't get him is that nobody else wants him.  Guess what?  There are at least a DOZEN players on this team today that would not be picked up (within a month of release) if they were cut tomorrow.

It didn't cost us 11 pts. Play calling did.  Roll Eyes

If Polite was on our roster, you assume we still don't throw a fade pass to Hartline. You just don't get it. Never will either it seems!!

I still have the same stance as I had last week, the correct stance!
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« Reply #26 on: September 15, 2011, 10:30:53 pm »

^ It's a damn good thing we jumped on Larry Johnson then, eh!  Don't want the other 31 teams claiming that incredible force before we did!

But Larry Johnson wasn't 90% successful! lol Polite has a success rate up there with nobody else in league history. They are making room for his bust in Canton, Ohio according to some people here on this board.

The fact Larry Johnson is working (after being out of the league for 2 years) and Polite isn't should tell you everything you need to know about Polite....He Sucks!
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« Reply #27 on: September 15, 2011, 11:02:27 pm »

It didn't cost us 11 pts. Play calling did.  Roll Eyes
If, by "play calling" you mean "calling Lex Hilliard's number to get that yard," I agree.

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If Polite was on our roster, you assume we still don't throw a fade pass to Hartline.
No, I presume that he would have gotten the yard that Hilliard failed to get.  Or are you still pretending Hilliard never got a goal line carry?
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« Reply #28 on: September 15, 2011, 11:03:14 pm »

The fact Larry Johnson is working (after being out of the league for 2 years) and Polite isn't should tell you everything you need to know about Polite....He Sucks!

Right.  Says the guy who has agreed with every single move the Dolphins front office has made in the past 10 years, right?   Roll Eyes  
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« Reply #29 on: September 15, 2011, 11:13:00 pm »

I must say that I find MikeO's new stance of "Other teams didn't want him so that means he SUCKS!" incredibly hilarious.  That's right, performance is not to be discussed... no, the real measure is whether or not teams want you.

Davone Bess?  Undrafted rookie, which means 32 teams passed on him seven times each (or thereabouts).
Patrick Turner?  Drafted in the third round.
Therefore, Turner is better than Bess!  On-field performance be damned.
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