Dolphins Offense...

[MikeO]

I must say that I find MikeO's new stance of "Other teams didn't want him so that means he SUCKS!" incredibly hilarious.  That's right, performance is not to be discussed... no, the real measure is whether or not teams want you.

Davone Bess?  Undrafted rookie, which means 32 teams passed on him seven times each (or thereabouts).
Patrick Turner?  Drafted in the third round.
Therefore, Turner is better than Bess!  On-field performance be damned.

That's right because there are TONS and TONS of great football players out there without teams. The hilarious stance is yours. Thinking Polite is so great. So great that no team wants to touch him after watching him play in this league for over 3 years.

And don't compare what happens at the NFL draft with unproven guys to a guy who has 3+ years of video or already playing in the NFL. That's downright stupid!

[fyo]

I've been staying away from this discussion since it seems to have spiraled into an abyss...

However...

Polite is GREAT at gaining a yard or two.

Polite contributes little else.

That, combined with the general trend away from fullbacks as lead blockers, means he's just not worth it for most (all?) teams.

HOWEVER, I do think WE could use him specifically in Miami... he's just a very good fit for a very, very specific need we have right now.

[MikeO]

We had 77 offensive snaps Monday. Fullback was on the field only 10 times. No need for a fullback in this offense

[Diehard_Dolfan]

We had 77 offensive snaps Monday. Fullback was on the field only 10 times. No need for a fullback in this offense

Could be something to do with not actually having a healthy FB...

[MikeO]

Could be something to do with not actually having a healthy FB...

No, we threw the ball 49 times mostly from a shotgun. Fullback isn't even on the field whether we had one or not.

[Diehard_Dolfan]

No, we threw the ball 49 times mostly from a shotgun. Fullback isn't even on the field whether we had one or not.

Of course a Fullback is not going to be on the field....we didn't have one to put on the field!  Are you serious with your logic?

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Long snapper and punter were used even less than the full backer.  Don't need those positions either than. 

[MikeO]

Long snapper and punter were used even less than the full backer.  Don't need those positions either than. 

that's just downright silly. Comparing something like that. But I expect nothing less than you.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

that's just downright silly. Comparing something like that. But I expect nothing less than you.

Not really. 

Miami doesn't have a good solid full back.  Yet despite not having someone who can play that position well you put someone whose strength is something else into the FB position.  Imagine how many times MIA might have used a fullback if they actually had one. 

Maybe a closer analogy would be a team doesn't need a fourth corner back on the game day roster because they only play the dime about 10 times per game -- we will just use a linebacker instead in those instances.   

[Diehard_Dolfan]

I want to say again... I like what the Dolphins are trying to do on offense!   The problem is we can't expect to be explosive over night...  I think we needed to keep a bit of the smashmouth style until we got the players to make this new system work.  We don't have the offensive line to really pull this off yet IMO.   This is why we should have had a plan that involved using Fasano or one of our other TE's as a fullback so we could pound the ball every now and then.... especially when we need to like that 4th and half a yard!

It was obvious that some of our linemen aren't able to pull and get outside on those edge type run plays.  And I commend Reggie Bush for wanting to be the featured back... but I don't see him lasting too long trying to run between the tackles.  He's just not cut out to be a between the tackles runner... every now and again is fine.

[fyo]

We had 77 offensive snaps Monday. Fullback was on the field only 10 times. No need for a fullback in this offense

And Reggie Bush was on the field for 75 of those 77 snaps. Really.

I like the guy and I think his 20 touches were quite reasonable... but having him in on EVERY* play?

(* Not sure what two plays he went out for... I'm thinking the Hilliard plunge, perhaps both).

[MikeO]

And Reggie Bush was on the field for 75 of those 77 snaps. Really.

I like the guy and I think his 20 touches were quite reasonable... but having him in on EVERY* play?

(* Not sure what two plays he went out for... I'm thinking the Hilliard plunge, perhaps both).

I didn't agree with all the playing time Bush had and how we used him. That is a totally different issue than the FB debate. Look, I was pleased with a lot of things we did on offense Monday. I wasn't in love with Daboll overall though. How he used Bush and the goaline playcalling standing out as two RED FLAGS I saw with Daboll. But as I said the other day, I'm not getting worked up over it either. Because I don't see Sparano surviving this season, and when he's gone, Daboll is gone too. So I'm not getting worked up over an assistant coach who only has 15 more games left as the offensive coordinator for the Fins most likely. Hope I wrong, we win a bunch and everyone stays. But I don't expect it to happen!

[Diehard_Dolfan]

I didn't agree with all the playing time Bush had and how we used him. That is a totally different issue than the FB debate. Look, I was pleased with a lot of things we did on offense Monday. I wasn't in love with Daboll overall though. How he used Bush and the goaline playcalling standing out as two RED FLAGS I saw with Daboll. But as I said the other day, I'm not getting worked up over it either. Because I don't see Sparano surviving this season, and when he's gone, Daboll is gone too. So I'm not getting worked up over an assistant coach who only has 15 more games left as the offensive coordinator for the Fins most likely. Hope I wrong, we win a bunch and everyone stays. But I don't expect it to happen!

After what went on with Harbaugh doing the offseason was there really any sense of security for them this year anyway?

[BigDaddyFin]

You have to have a blocking back.  I don't care what kind of offense you run.  I assumed like an idiot that we cut Polite because the new kid they drafted was going to fill that role.  Then I heard somebody on tv go oh no they're gonna use Hilliard for that. 

You have to have someone on the goalline and in short yardage who can block.  And I don't understand how this Offensive line supposedly can't run the ball anymore.  This is actually a better group of guys than we had blocking for Ricky and Ronnie.  They had no trouble opening holes for Reggie Bush.  Suddenly they're not good enough to block on the goalline?

[Diehard_Dolfan]

It's funny I'm watching the Florida-Tennessee game now and Florida is built for the spread (like us) don't have big TE's (although we do) and they came out pro set and used a play action pass to score.  Makes you wonder why our coaches didn't think of something like that?