Trade Deadline

[MikeO]

If the Fins don't win this weekend against another bottom feeder team like the Browns the season is officially over. And now you have to start looking long-term. Obviously the coaching staff will get blown up mid-season or after the season and we will be starting over. I have a bad feeling Ireland might survive any house cleaning for the fact he didn't mortgage the future and for a guy with his job on the line that is odd. He might have been told he is safe by the owner. Plus there was "rumors" last year Cowher didn't want to talk to Ross cause Ireland wasn't going anyplace. So, we might be stuck with Ireland.

With that said, with the trade deadline in early October, if our season is "lost" by then, we gotta start looking to trade of "valuable" parts and get something in return....ie PICKS! What parts do we have, the biggest would be Brandon Marshall. I could see a WR desperate team like the Rams, Redskins, or Bears being interested and if we could get a 2nd round pick in return, do it!

Not sure a team would give up much for Bess to make it worth anything. Wake is a free agent and his level of play after 2 games has been so poor not sure what he would net in return. But if we got a chance to move Marshall and get a 2nd rounder in a few weeks, gotta pull that trigger.

[fyo]

Yeah, by all means, let's flush everything AGAIN and suck for years to come.

For all the times someone digs up a team going from very few wins to a lot (always without any context, of course), it's amazing that no one has shown how often a team that KEEPS flushing everything suddenly starts winning (consistently). I'd wager it hasn't happened. Ever.

Getting rid of our best players is just about the most stupid thing one could possibly do at this point.

[Brian Fein]

Your post has merit, but your first paragraph makes it seem like more incessant whining and assumption.  The season is NOT OFFICIALLY over until after week 17.

That said, to your real point, I think trading away key cogs right now is wrong.  Given the drafting ability of the buffoons in charge, I'd rather keep the team's talent and try to build on a strong nucleus.

Besides, this isn't MLB where teams that are out of it firesale their guys every year.  That just doesn't happen in the NFL.

[miamid45]

I guess the REAL problem lies with possibly unloading players for picks (under this regime)...BECAUSE basically you are telling the GM that this is a total rebuild and in most cases, he will be fired . I think that this happens in the offseason  with a new GM and Coach...not with a bandaid we are close fix, but with a total rebuild focused upon acquiring as many draft picks as possible./

[tubba marxxx]

I get what you're saying..but not with this ass-clown Ireland calling the shots. 

[MikeO]

Yeah, by all means, let's flush everything AGAIN and suck for years to come.

For all the times someone digs up a team going from very few wins to a lot (always without any context, of course), it's amazing that no one has shown how often a team that KEEPS flushing everything suddenly starts winning (consistently). I'd wager it hasn't happened. Ever.

Getting rid of our best players is just about the most stupid thing one could possibly do at this point.

1) Marshall isn't our best player. He might be the 3rd best player on our offense in reality behind Long and Pouncey

2) flush everything....we have next to nothing. Aside from our left tackle we have little to nothing on this roster other teams want

[MikeO]

Your post has merit, but your first paragraph makes it seem like more incessant whining and assumption.  The season is NOT OFFICIALLY over until after week 17.

That is a load of crap. Sorry. If any team is 1-5 or 2-6, guess what the year is OFFICIALLY OVER!

[tubba marxxx]

Outside of: Long, Pouncey, Davis, Wake, Dansby, and Bell...everything must go

[masterfins]

I'm kind of confused by MikeO's post, seems to contradict his thought in other posts.  You start this post by saying we might be "stuck" with Ireland for another year, yet you want to trade away "valuable" parts for picks - yet in other posts you repeatedly say how Ireland sucks at picking players...so why on Earth would you think we should trade valuable parts for picks??

I agree with Brian, this is not MLB where teams trade away top players every year.

[MikeO]

I'm kind of confused by MikeO's post, seems to contradict his thought in other posts.  You start this post by saying we might be "stuck" with Ireland for another year, yet you want to trade away "valuable" parts for picks - yet in other posts you repeatedly say how Ireland sucks at picking players...so why on Earth would you think we should trade valuable parts for picks??

I agree with Brian, this is not MLB where teams trade away top players every year.

I want Ireland gone. But I live in "REALITY" and know he might be staying beyond this year. What I want and what will happen are 2 different things. I live in REALITY, and deal with the situation at hand. So lets talk about what will happen and not live in some fantasy world and talk about what should happen or what probably won't happen.

Ireland should be gone. But our owner is a fool and seems to like him.

[tubba marxxx]

^^ because Ross is even more clueless than Ireland..so from Ross's perception, Ireland is a genius

when in REALITY..he's a fucking moron who still has a boner for his years in Dallas

as long as Ireland is around, Ross doesn't have to make any football decisions..he can focus on "putting fans in the seats"....but apparently he's doing a piss poor job at that too

[masterfins]

I want Ireland gone. But I live in "REALITY" and know he might be staying beyond this year. What I want and what will happen are 2 different things. I live in REALITY, and deal with the situation at hand. So lets talk about what will happen and not live in some fantasy world and talk about what should happen or what probably won't happen.Ireland should be gone. But our owner is a fool and seems to like him.

LOL, In one line you say lets not talk about what should happen, then the very next line you say Ireland should be gone.  Too funny.  I'm not saying Ireland should stay or go, nor do I know what you consider "REALITY".

[MikeO]

LOL, In one line you say lets not talk about what should happen, then the very next line you say Ireland should be gone.  Too funny.  I'm not saying Ireland should stay or go, nor do I know what you consider "REALITY".

You asked me a question, I answered. If you can't figure it out then I don't know what to tell ya. It's pretty simple.

And it wasn't the very next line. I made one point. Then I answered your question which was another point. I figured those 3 years in the 2nd grade would have helped you figure that out

[Diehard_Dolfan]

You asked me a question, I answered. If you can't figure it out then I don't know what to tell ya. It's pretty simple.

And it wasn't the very next line. I made one point. Then I answered your question which was another point. I figured those 3 years in the 2nd grade would have helped you figure that out

Actually you make no sense at all!

You say we should trade for picks but you say Ireland sucks at picking players!  So we should trade away good players we have so Ireland can bring in more players that suck?

Yeah makes perfect sense to me...

[masterfins]

You asked me a question, I answered. If you can't figure it out then I don't know what to tell ya. It's pretty simple.

And it wasn't the very next line. I made one point. Then I answered your question which was another point. I figured those 3 years in the 2nd grade would have helped you figure that out

Hey I only spent two years in 2nd grade, it was 1st grade that took me three years.  Learning the A, B, E's was tough.