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« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2011, 10:43:32 am »

Sanchez doesn't consistently make plays that LOSES his team games. Henne does.
That's one way to look at it. Another is to say that Sanchez' team is able to overcome his poor play whereas Henne's is not. Unless Henne has a great game Miami loses, heck even when he has a good game they lose. The Jets win despite the fact that Sanchez sucks.
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« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2011, 10:53:15 am »

the jets win?
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« Reply #17 on: October 04, 2011, 11:48:39 am »

Sanchez doesn't consistently make plays that LOSES his team games.

Sanchez had a playoff game where he had only 3 in-completions for the entire game. 3!!Last year AT New England in the playoffs Sanchez threw 3 TOUCHDOWNS!! When was the last time Henne led 3 touchdown drives let alone 3 big touchdown passes in one game.

This argument is silly. Sanchez is a young franchise QB to build around. Henne will be holding a clipboard and wearing a baseball cap next year backing up in Minnesota or Cleveland or someplace like that.


Seriously? Really? That's what you've got? A game in which Sanchez only threw the ball 15 times, so he miraculously only had 3 incompletes? And a game in which his team had nearly as many rushing yards as he had passing? THAT'S supposed to show that Sanchez is "light years ahead?" Or the fact that Sanchez had 3 TD's against the Pats? Funny- did you miss week one? Henne also had 3 TD's and accounted for 475 yards of offense. When was the last time Sanchez did that? Cough, cough...NEVER. You're right- the argument (at least the one you're presenting) is silly. Even his peers ranked him as the third most over-rated player in the entire league. Doesn't that tell you something??-EK
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« Reply #18 on: October 04, 2011, 05:55:08 pm »


Seriously? Really? That's what you've got? A game in which Sanchez only threw the ball 15 times, so he miraculously only had 3 incompletes? And a game in which his team had nearly as many rushing yards as he had passing? THAT'S supposed to show that Sanchez is "light years ahead?" Or the fact that Sanchez had 3 TD's against the Pats? Funny- did you miss week one? Henne also had 3 TD's and accounted for 475 yards of offense. When was the last time Sanchez did that? Cough, cough...NEVER. You're right- the argument (at least the one you're presenting) is silly. Even his peers ranked him as the third most over-rated player in the entire league. Doesn't that tell you something??-EK

Henne vs the Pats was Week 1. Sanchez KNOCKED THE PATS OUT OF THE PLAYOFFS!! Little different. Check that, A LOT DIFFERENT!
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« Reply #19 on: October 04, 2011, 07:06:57 pm »

Henne vs the Pats was Week 1. Sanchez KNOCKED THE PATS OUT OF THE PLAYOFFS!! Little different. Check that, A LOT DIFFERENT!

Doesn't that have more to do with the fact that the Jets actually try and play defense?
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« Reply #20 on: October 04, 2011, 08:53:44 pm »

Doesn't that have more to do with the fact that the Jets actually try and play defense?

You can spin this anyway you want. If you think Henne is better than Sanchez you are living in a fantasy world. Nobody is saying Sanchez is great, but he is much than Henne. You must be Henne's relatives or look at the world through Dolphins Homer EyeGlasses to think Henne is better than Sanchez. It's not even close

Henne had a Top 6 defense last year, by YOUR VERY OWN LOGIC, that should have been enough for Chad to make the playoffs and win some games. I mean if the Jets defense carries Sanchez then a Top 6 NFL defense should have carried Chad by that silly logic?!!

Give me a break. A year from now Sanchez is still the starting QB of a playoff contending team. Henne will be with clipboard in hand and baseball cap on head in godknows what city backing up someone who can actually play
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« Reply #21 on: October 04, 2011, 09:42:17 pm »


Give me a break. A year from now Sanchez is still the starting QB of a playoff contending team. Henne will be with clipboard in hand and baseball cap on head in godknows what city backing up someone who can actually play

Or out of football all together.  Maybe it doesn't happen next season, but it's likely that in 5 years Sanchez will still be a starting QB in the league and Henne will be selling cars in central Pennsylvania (or whatever his fallback career is).
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« Reply #22 on: October 05, 2011, 07:44:57 am »


Henne had a Top 6 defense last year, by YOUR VERY OWN LOGIC, that should have been enough for Chad to make the playoffs and win some games. I mean if the Jets defense carries Sanchez then a Top 6 NFL defense should have carried Chad by that silly logic?!!


I'm sorry I thought we were talking about beating the patriots, not making the playoffs.  The main reason we lost that game and the Jets beat new england in the playoffs had to do with defense.  That was my assertion. 
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« Reply #23 on: October 05, 2011, 07:54:28 am »

Henne vs the Pats was Week 1. Sanchez KNOCKED THE PATS OUT OF THE PLAYOFFS!! Little different. Check that, A LOT DIFFERENT!

How? How is it different? New England had the exact same players and coaches! It's not significantly different. In fact- because the pats were the same- it's not different at all. Sanchez rode the number one defense and number one running game in the league to his first AFC title, and still couldn't win. Nice job ignoring the fact that he was rated as the MOST overrated qb in football by the freaking players! Didn't fit your argument so no comment? Put Henne on that jets team and the results are the same. Again- not saying Henne is better, per se, only that Sanchez isn't "light years" ahead as you seem to believe. -EK
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« Reply #24 on: October 05, 2011, 07:57:34 am »

. Sanchez rode the number one defense and number one running game in the league to his first AFC title, and still couldn't win.


if you don't think playing a week 1 game at home is different than a ROAD playoff game I don't know what to tell ya

P.S....the Jets haven't won the AFC East or an AFC title, I have no idea where you are getting your "info" from. And give me a "link" to that overrated poll. I don't believe it for a second without some proof
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« Reply #25 on: October 05, 2011, 08:01:10 am »

Or out of football all together.  Maybe it doesn't happen next season, but it's likely that in 5 years Sanchez will still be a starting QB in the league and Henne will be selling cars in central Pennsylvania (or whatever his fallback career is).

Chad Henne=Matt Leinart

It really is the only comparison that makes any sense with Chad. Given a shot, fail miserably. Find a bench on a team as a backup. And shortly out of the league. Which Leinart will be after this year. And within a couple Henne will follow the same path
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« Reply #26 on: October 05, 2011, 08:58:37 am »


if you don't think playing a week 1 game at home is different than a ROAD playoff game I don't know what to tell ya

P.S....the Jets haven't won the AFC East or an AFC title, I have no idea where you are getting your "info" from. And give me a "link" to that overrated poll. I don't believe it for a second without some proof

Huh Never said he had a title. Said he made it there riding his D and running game and still couldn't win. The poll was conducted by and published in Sports Illustrated. Is that a reputable enough source? You can Google a link- there's plenty of them. I'm sure you will have some ridiculous rubuttle to that as well though. -EK
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« Reply #27 on: October 05, 2011, 12:01:01 pm »

MikeO, Sanchez just posted the worst game (all considered) by any NFL quarterback since 2008.  The next closest competitor was Andrew Walter with the Raiders.

ESPN devised a Total QB Rating to compare all facets of a QB's play, be it clutch plays (or lack thereof), failed 3rd down conversions, strip sack fumbles, etc.  Using this objective rating, Sanchez is the 3rd worst QB in the league this season and Henne is in the top 10.  For his career, Henne has consistently posted higher QBR numbers than Sanchez.

Sanchez is consistently bailed out by his team.  Look at the game against Dallas: after NYJ scored a TD to close within 7 points, Sanchez and the Jets offense went home for the night... their next (and final) three offensive drives resulted in fumble, punt, and 2-yard drive for 50-yard FG.  (The last possession was particularly wretched, as Sanchez got the ball with 0:49 remaining and handed the ball back to DAL with 0:27 remaining...  and DAL didn't even have to use a timeout!)

The Jets defense and special teams did the entirety of the rest of the work necessary to win the game.  But Sanchez gets a 4th quarter comeback on his resume.  Pathetic.
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« Reply #28 on: October 05, 2011, 12:13:38 pm »

And for the record, Sanchez was only voted the SECOND most overrated QB in football (and tied for third as most overrated player).  In a twist of irony (given week 1), Romo was the #1 overrated QB; T.O. was the #1 overrated player overall.

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/jets/2010/10/mark-sanchez-ranked-third-most.html
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« Reply #29 on: October 05, 2011, 12:15:29 pm »

And for the record, Sanchez was only voted the SECOND most overrated QB in football (and tied for third as most overrated player).  In a twist of irony (given week 1), Romo was the #1 QB; T.O. was #1 overall.

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/jets/2010/10/mark-sanchez-ranked-third-most.html
That's a player poll by the way, not a fan poll, but to be completely forthcoming that poll was taken a year ago, not recently.
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