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« on: October 05, 2011, 04:08:07 pm »

Request: I don't have time to do this, but does anyone have access to our full roster + the general contract cap hit that each guy costs?  I'd like to see a full list and then sort from there.


My gut, right now, says this:

Goes:
Ireland
Sparano
Brandon Marshall
Nolan Carrol
Columbo
Carpenter


Stays:
Davone Bess
Vontae Davis
Jake Long
Reggie Bush (he's inexpensive, right)
Brandon Fields
Daniel Thomas
Henne - He is not worth cutting, but you need to bring in another QB to start, or at least compete.  This is a league that requires multiple viable starters, in my opinion.  ...if the price is right, too.

TBD by next GM/Coach:
position coaches/assistants -- don't dismantle everyone.  Let new team pick and choose.
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« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2011, 04:19:31 pm »

Henne is a free agent.
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« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2011, 04:22:20 pm »

Henne was supposed to be in my stays pile.  I'll edit.
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« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2011, 04:25:53 pm »

Henne would be a great backup.
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« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2011, 04:56:30 pm »

Player2012201320142015
Alama-Francis, IkaikaFA
Allen, WillFA
Bell, Yeremiah$4.3M+$1.5MFA
Bess, Davone$2.2M+$0.8M$2.6M+$0.8MFA
Burnett, Kevin~ $4M~ $4M~ $4MFA
Bush, Reggie$4.75M+$1.25MFA
Carey, VernonFA
Carpenter, Dan$2.5M$2.7MFA
Carroll, Nolan$0.5M$0.6MFA
Clay, Charles?
Clemons, Chris$0.6MFA
Colombo, Marc?
Cook, Ryan$1.0MFA
Culver, Tyrone$0.8MFA
Dansby, Karlos$8.8M+$4.0M$6.0M+$4.0M$9.0M+$4.0MFA
Davis, Vontae$1.0M+$1.6M$1.1M+$1.6MFA
Denney, John$0.8M$0.9MFA
Fasano, Anthony$3.8M+$0.7MFA
Fields, Brandon$1.1MFA
Garner, Nate$1.4MFA
Gates, Clyde?
Hartline, Brian$0.6M+$0.1MFA
Henne, ChadFA
Hilliard, LexRFA
Incognito, Richie?
Jerry, John$0.5M+$0.2M$0.6M+$0.2MFA
Jones, Reshad$0.5M$0.6MFA
Langford, KendallFA
Long, Jake$11.2MFA
Marshall, Brandon$9.3M+$1.1M$9.1M+$1.1M$9.1M+$1.1MFA
Mastrud, JeronRFA
McDaniel, Tony~ $3MFA
Merling, PhillipFA
Misi, Koa$0.5M+$0.7M$0.6M+$0.7MFA
Mitchell, Marvin?
Moore, Marlon$0.5MRFA
Moore, Matt?
Murtha, LydonRFA
Odrick, Jared$0.6M+$1.4M$0.7M+$1.4M$0.8M+$1.4MFA
Olshansky, IgorFA
Pouncey, Mike~ $2.3M~ $2.3M~ $2.3MFA
Slaton, SteveFA
Smith, Sean$0.6M+$0.2MFA
Soliai, PaulFA
Spitler, AustinRFA
Starks, Randy$3.7M+$1.2MFA
Taylor, JasonFA
Thomas, Daniel~ $0.7M~ $0.8M~ $0.9MFA
Trusnik, Jason~ $1.0MFA
Wake, Cameron$0.6M+$0.2MFA
Wallace, Roberto$0.5MRFA
Wilson, Jimmy~ $0.4M~$0.5M~ $0.6MFA
Yeatman, Will?

(source: roster from nfl.com, salaries from rotoworld.com)

EDITED TO NOTE: The numbers above are *salaries*, not cap hits, so any bonus that was paid out and prorated over the life of the contract is not included. A few players have significant incentives (most notably Cameron Wake) or fully guaranteed contracts (most notably Mike Pouncey). Where salaries were not available, a ? was used (and no contract length indicated -- don't assume just 1 year left). Where no precise salary was available, a rough estimate was made from the overall contract and other available information -- indicated by a ~.

EDITED AGAIN: Cap hits added in red (with the exception of Pouncey, where the salary is in red to indicate that it is fully guaranteed and thus counts towards the cap if he's cut.
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« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2011, 05:39:56 pm »

Stays:

Vontae Davis
Jake Long
Karlos Dansby
Mike Pouncey
Brian Hartline
Davone Bess
Jared Odrick
Randy Starks
Kendell Langford
Brandon Fields
Koa Misi
Cameron Wake
Daniel Thomas

Everyone else is gone unless they are the only option...I know you can only fill so many positions in one offseason.

EDIT:  Forgot about Daniel Thomas
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« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2011, 05:47:40 pm »

Daniel Thomas stays, too.  Cheap and promising, so far.
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« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2011, 06:07:01 pm »

The table above now shows full cap hits.
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« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2011, 06:24:01 pm »

If.....St.Louis gets the 1st pick....would we be able to package Marshall and our number 1 ( hopefully 2nd overall) for their 1st pick? (Luck).

I'd say that would be the way we unload Marshall...otherwise I see him staying with the team because no one would probably offer more than a 3rd round pick.
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« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2011, 06:26:41 pm »

Marshall is going to be impossible to unload with his current contract... the way he's playing. Basically, we'll need to cut him or keep him.
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« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2011, 07:00:19 pm »

Henne is a free agent. They won't resign him and he won't want to come back.

He's done in Miami after this year
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« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2011, 07:02:07 pm »

If.....St.Louis gets the 1st pick....would we be able to package Marshall and our number 1 ( hopefully 2nd overall) for their 1st pick? (Luck).

I'd say that would be the way we unload Marshall...otherwise I see him staying with the team because no one would probably offer more than a 3rd round pick.

ha ha, if you want to TRADE for the 1st overall pick in this draft with Andrew Luck. Try giving up pretty much the first 4 rounds of picks this year. And at least a 1st and 2nd next year. And maybe another early pick the year after that. And honestly, that PROBABLY isn't enough. Probably. A team might want a Ricky deal where it takes every pick in this draft a the first couple rounds next year. And even that may not be enough.
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« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2011, 09:24:30 pm »

Do we try to re-sign Carey?
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« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2011, 02:18:19 am »

Here's who stays



Vontae Davis
Karlos Dansby
Cameron Wake
Jared Odrick
Jake Long
Mike Pouncey
Brandon Marshall
Davone Bess
Daniel Thomas
Brandon Fields (it's bad when your punter is one of your best players)



Everyone else can go as far as I'm concerned
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« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2011, 06:48:32 am »

Do we try to re-sign Carey?

No. Old and broken down
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