2012 Draft ROUNDS 2-3

[MikeO]

I smell what your cooking, but again I have to point out how hit and miss draft picks are. 

It's hit and miss...OK. That is a cloud over every draft ever held and every draft pick ever made. How does that change anything or Miami's approach?

Jerry was a 3rd round pick right?  He's been terrible.

so we should never take a guy in Rd 3 again? What's your point. Pat White was terrible too he went in Rd 2. Pat Turner in Rd 3 as well. What is the point your trying to make? Give up on these rounds? How about just hire someone better to make the picks.

[Tenshot13]

Let me try this one more time.  After the first round, your more likely to miss on a player.  If you don't believe me look at the past few drafts for any team.  That is why you should take the best player available.  If your just trying to fill a need, you have a higher chance of missing.  If the best player available is an Olineman, great.  If its some other position then you have to take him.  The exception is if you are already stacked at a position.  It would be silly for us to draft another Dlineman.  We don't take an OG/OT because there is one available...we take the best player out of OT, OG, SS, FS, CB, TE, OLB and possibly even WR.  There is a higher chance of hitting that way.

[MikeO]

  The exception is if you are already stacked at a position.  It would be silly for us to draft another Dlineman. 

So you are drafting by need if you are making exceptions. By making even 1 exception you are already going against your theory of taking the best player available

[Tenshot13]

So you are drafting by need if you are making exceptions. By making even 1 exception you are already going against your theory of taking the best player available

Ugh, not this again.  Read my posts.  I say take the best player available that fills a position of need.  I can make all the exceptions I want, it's my standard for drafting a player.  Never once did I say take the best player available no matter what position.  By trying to simplify my argument for you, you've twisted my words.  If you need proof...

My only beef is taking an Olineman when a better player at another position, that we will eventually have to fill, is sitting there.  Are you okay with drafting an Olineman whose maybe above average vs. a player who could be the next LaMarr Woodley or Jarrius Bryd?  It would still be filling a need with a superior prospect, just not the one you want.  Now, if the Olineman is the best player on the board, that's another story.

...and this...

I also want to add, look at the past few years drafts.  There are few hits and a ton of misses, not only from MIA but everyone.  When you see a special talent, especially in the later rounds, you have to take him, regardless if it's a primary or secondary need.

...and also this.

We don't take an OG/OT because there is one available...we take the best player out of OT, OG, SS, FS, CB, TE, OLB and possibly even WR.  There is a higher chance of hitting that way.

I would like to get back on topic though....is there a particular player in the later rounds that you want MikeO?  I've pretty much done all the the work for you, just watch some of the videos.  Anyone impress you?

[tubba marxxx]

Let me try this one more time.  After the first round, your more likely to miss on a player.  If you don't believe me look at the past few drafts for any team.  That is why you should take the best player available.  If your just trying to fill a need, you have a higher chance of missing.  If the best player available is an Olineman, great.  If its some other position then you have to take him.  The exception is if you are already stacked at a position.  It would be silly for us to draft another Dlineman.  We don't take an OG/OT because there is one available...we take the best player out of OT, OG, SS, FS, CB, TE, OLB and possibly even WR.  There is a higher chance of hitting that way.

I agree completely with this except for one point.  And I know I'm going to contradict what I said in an earlier post on this thread, but it needs to be pointed out.  Langford, Merling, Olshansky, Soliai, and I think McDaniel will all be free agents this year.  So drafting a D-lineman isn't as silly as it seams.  So add that to the list of best player available theory, which I always agree with.  And lets we honest, Miami can use an upgrade at almost every position. 


(I hope I put enough emphasis on the word "almost" above.  I don't want someone attempting to call me out on positions we DON'T need an upgrade at)

[MikeO]

I would like to get back on topic though....is there a particular player in the later rounds that you want MikeO?  I've pretty much done all the the work for you, just watch some of the videos.  Anyone impress you?

You haven't done one bit of work for me. I don't know what the hell your talking about.

But on any late round picks, I want to see the list of juniors coming out before giving any names. Late April is a long ways away.  6 months away is too far out for any predictions or names.

[Tenshot13]

You haven't done one bit of work for me. I don't know what the hell your talking about.

But on any late round picks, I want to see the list of juniors coming out before giving any names. Late April is a long ways away.  6 months away is too far out for any predictions or names.

Okay I'm done with you.  Your not bringing anything to this discussion.  And yes, I have done all the work for you regarding top prospects that might be available...all you have to do is click that little youtube link under each player.  Apparently if you "Don't know what the hell I'm talking about" you're either too lazy to actually read entire posts or you're a fucking idiot.

[tubba marxxx]

Guys as cute as your 3rd grade argument is.  You both are killing me with the misuse of the word "your"


Your = showing possession of something

You're = means you are



Example:  You wouldn't say "I don't know what your talking about"  I cringe every time I see this.   It would be "I don't know what you're talking about"


Just bring a little education to your bickering.   Carry on my wayward sons.....

[Tenshot13]

Guys as cute as your 3rd grade argument is.  You both are killing me with the misuse of the word "your"


Your = showing possession of something

You're = means you are



Example:  You wouldn't say "I don't know what your talking about"  I cringe every time I see this.   It would be "I don't know what you're talking about"


Just bring a little education to your bickering.   Carry on my wayward sons.....

My phone autocorrects into "your" which is what I've been posting on.

[MikeO]

Okay I'm done with you.  Your not bringing anything to this discussion. 

You were asking me questions and I was answering them. lol, bringing anything to the discussion. Stop asking me questions then! lol

Apparently if you "Don't know what the hell I'm talking about" you're either too lazy to actually read entire posts or you're a fucking idiot.

Have a nice day as well. You ask me questions, I answer and you get upset. WOW!

[tubba marxxx]

My phone autocorrects into "your" which is what I've been posting on.

Gotta love modern technology

[tubba marxxx]

ANYWAYS



I think outside of a Free Safety, this should be a mostly offensive focused draft. Mid rounds I wanted to see Safety, TE and O-line addressed more than anything else.  I think we can all agree one that

[MikeO]

I think outside of a Free Safety, this should be a mostly offensive focused draft. Mid rounds I wanted to see Safety, TE and O-line addressed more than anything else.  I think we can all agree one that

But I'm not sure a young Safety is what we need. We have too much youth in our secondary. I would rather add a Veteran safety in Free Agency. Bring a leader to the secondary. Someone to run the show back there. Not another kid and more growing pains

[tubba marxxx]

But I'm not sure a young Safety is what we need. We have too much youth in our secondary. I would rather add a Veteran safety in Free Agency. Bring a leader to the secondary. Someone to run the show back there. Not another kid and more growing pains

Agreed, but the Safety market this year isn't that great.  Outside of LaRon Landry or Michael Griffin (both of whom might be too pricey) there's really no definite upgrades out there.

[Tenshot13]

tubba mentioned maybe addressing WR in the draft, so here are a few...

ROUND 2

Dwight Jones UNC - Soft hands, great speed, runs good routes.  Tall at 6-4.  215 lbs.  Seems to be tackled easily.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yA1G_w2kfj0

Ryan Broyles OK- Reminds me of Dexter McCluster.  Mostly a YAC guy.  Small size at 5-11 185 lbs.  Isn't scared to go over the middle.  WR/PR.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0ys5ixyr4k

Juron Criner AZ - Big guy at 6-4 210lbs.  Fast.  Has some YAC ability, but will beat you over the top too.  Lacks concentration from time to time, but is solid most of the time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFSJK4QXlYA

Mohamed Sanu RUT - I've had the unfortunate pleasure of watching Sanu rape my USF Bulls.  He runs like a gazelle, he blocks like a monster, he can run the wildcat, he can beat you deep and he's a YAC guy.  He plays bigger than his 6-2 215 lbs frame.  He may elect to stay in college another year.  I don't think we need a WR, but I wouldn't be sad if we drafted him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFSJK4QXlYA


Back with more later...gonna watch Landry Jones on TV.