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Landshark
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« on: November 06, 2011, 05:02:31 pm »

Just hypothetically speaking, let's assume that with this win today, the Dolphins don't win the Andrew Luck sweepstakes.  Now lets assume that they want to move up to get the top pick in order to acquire Luck.  To avoid shelling out a boatload of picks, they may have to part with some players.  Who do you think they would part with?  Here's my list:

Brandon Marshall-  May have worn out his welcome here with his off-field drama and penchant for drops.  He is still a great receiver, and some team needing receiver help would want him.

Cameron Wake-  Play has dropped off because he is drawing double teams.  Put him on a team with another pass rusher and he'll go to the Pro Bowl again.

Vontae Davis-  I know, we just spent a first rounder on the guy, but he runs his mouth too much, doesn't make plays often enough, and we've found a solid replacement in Jimmy Wilson.
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« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2011, 05:08:14 pm »

Make no mistake, Jimmy Wilson is awful.  He is a walking PI penalty when he's not able to stop a pass.

He is a rookie 7th round draft pick so I don't expect much from him.  Even so, he has been nothing short of completely awful this season.  He's so bad, Sean Smith looks good in comparison. 

He can be tenacious, though, so he's got that going for him.  But then again, he did beat a murder wrap to make it into the NFL.  Maybe he could scare some WRs off some balls.
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« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2011, 05:19:10 pm »

seriously lol @ thinking jimmy wilson is good. He is fucking terrible. are you blind?
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« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2011, 05:19:29 pm »

seriously lol @ thinking jimmy wilson is good. He is fucking terrible. are you blind?

He had a hell of a game, dude.
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« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2011, 05:20:35 pm »

Jimmy made some rookie mistakes but I think he has potential. If whoever ends up with the first pick wanted to trade it that would require a lot of picks.So I dont even think this is an option.
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« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2011, 05:22:01 pm »

Wilson was bad today but has upside. He is great on special teams and will improve in the secondary.  He could be a solid nickle CB someday in this league
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« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2011, 05:22:10 pm »

He had a hell of a game, dude.

If he was on steve breaston and gave up 7 catches for 115 yards, that isn't good.  And he was fucking awful last week too. 
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« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2011, 06:00:43 pm »

seriously lol @ thinking jimmy wilson is good. He is fucking terrible. are you blind?

I had several choice words of Wilson today.  "Good" was never one of them.  Whenever a big play was made, it was against Wilson.  There is a reason why he's been victimized 2 weeks in a row.

Can he get better?  Sure.  There's a lot of room for improvement on this entire roster. 

If you think Wilson was good today, then you have absolutely no idea WTF you're talking about.  Wilson was the one piece of the secondary that was repeatedly abused today.
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« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2011, 06:16:30 pm »

The three of them seem to be all equally useful and useless at the same time.  The only one I would probably not consider trading is Cameron Wake.  The one I'd most likely trade is Brandon Marshall, however I'd revisit this at the end of the year and see if I still feel the same way.
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« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2011, 06:30:14 pm »

I've said it before on this site, and I'll say it again. 

I'll give the next coach the decision on what to do with Marshall or anyone else on this team.  Is he a tradeable piece?  Yes.

Do you want to?  A new QB would love a big target to throw to.  There are too many variables in this scenario to make that decision.  Each player might fit another coach's vision better than another.
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« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2011, 10:50:51 pm »

I've said it before on this site, and I'll say it again. 

I'll give the next coach the decision on what to do with Marshall or anyone else on this team.  Is he a tradeable piece?  Yes.

Do you want to?  A new QB would love a big target to throw to.  There are too many variables in this scenario to make that decision.  Each player might fit another coach's vision better than another.


Marshall isn't as easy to move as everyone thinks.  Nobody is going to want to take on that contract for that headache.  I'd give Marshall one shot with the new coach.  If he chills out and produces, keep him.  If he's still a pain in the ass with a case of stone hands, make him a deadline move to a team desperate for a WR.
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« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2011, 11:00:31 pm »

The only way you can trade up to get Luck is with picks.  ....lots of picks.  You can't trade your garbage.  You aren't going to get from Marshall what he's worth....he'd be a throw-in at best.
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« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2011, 11:35:55 pm »


If Miami ends up with the #2 pick behind Indy, the only chance Miami would have in trading up would likely involve:

1) Indy deciding that Peyton's neck is groovy and that he wants to play 3 more seasons, thus eliminating Indy's need for Luck.

2) Indy becoming infatuated with one of the other top non-QBs expected to go top-3ish, thus making Indy hesitant to trade too far down in the order.

...and even then, it will still likely take a whopper of a package, like our #2 overall pick, plus a second rounder this year and a first rounder next year. That may be a steep price, but if the rest of the QB-needy bottom-feeder teams recognize #1 to be the case, Indy will be receiving ridiculous offers left and right in the days leading up to the draft, all reported, tweeted and retweeted every 15 minutes. It will be straight-up Barnum and fucking Bailey.

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« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2011, 11:51:40 pm »

If Indy has 1 and MIA has 2, I say fuck Indy....let them pick who they'll pick.  If it's Luck, great, we take Landry Jones.  If it's someone else, great we get Luck.  If it's a trade up with another team, great we get Landry Jones. 
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« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2011, 12:48:06 am »

If Luck is as good as they say, I'd trade the farm.

We throw away #1 picks on crap all the time.  I'd pay whatever it took to get as close to a sure thing as possible. 
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